Would Google have excluded any source from the tree that's available? How difficult might it be to build a version and flash it to the dev1? I've built the code - pulled in the "extra proprietary" files from the vendors directory. All I've got to do now is actually flash the phone - I'm just a bit scared. I don't know too much about it and don't want to have to spend days going through forums and sites to figure out how to get my phone back if I brick it.
Anyone willing (daring enough?) to test out my build is welcome to get in touch with me for a copy... On Feb 27, 2:40 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd wait for firm release dates before saying there will be dozens of > 'phones. Most (if not all) of the devices could run Symbian, Win Mobile, > etc., and until they're formally announced, all the licensing agreements > are in place, and have shipping dates I wouldn't bank on them being > Android 'phones. > > Al. > > > > Christine wrote: > > On Feb 27, 8:39 am, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Right now G1 is for GMail, and Pacman. Nothing else. > > > wow... > > > Right now, there's G1s. In April, there will be G2s. At the end of > > this year, there will be dozens of phones, all different. Some you > > will like, others you won't. By the time the phones get more mature, > > we'll all have the knowledge and experience to develop great apps. > > > So what's your point? > > > Christine > > >> take care, > >> Muthu Ramadoss. > > >>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in-Android > >> Consulting. > > >> 2009/2/27 Al Sutton <[email protected]> > > >>> I'm not really feeling pitty for then as a lot of the problems have been > >>> brought about by a bad development and release process. > > >>> - Someone, somewhere signed off on a design which had limited internal > >>> memory and no ability to install apps outside of the internal memory. > >>> Did this person or group not think that users would ever want to install > >>> 10+ apps? > >>> - Did no-one think about supporting the ADP1 when a 1.1 firmware > >>> codebase was handed over to T-Mobile?, or did someone just not think > >>> about rolling new firmware for ADP1s when Google started selling them? > >>> - Someone signed off on taking live the paid-apps implementation, did > >>> they not think about the problems it would create for the existing > >>> owners of ADP1s? > > >>> To me it just seems that the mentality is that of a development shop run > >>> wild. > > >>> One of the most of the successful projects I've worked on had a QA > >>> manager who would organise peer reviews, look for inconsistencies in > >>> approaches to problems and put developers together to see which approach > >>> offered the best benefits, but they would never claim they knew which > >>> approach was "best" because they didn't write code for the product > >>> (about the only things he would challenge developers on was spelling > >>> mistakes and basic coding errors, apart from that he'd just arrange for > >>> two or more developers to highlight problems and work out solutions). > >>> This would have thrashed algorithmic problems such as copy-protection > >>> being easily circumventable and having the debug flag left on which > >>> allowed the "type reboot to reboot" problem. > > >>> After the QA manager rubber stamped a release it would then go to a > >>> release manager whose sole job was to look at the big picture. He'd say > >>> to developers things like "How does this affect the version we have > >>> running at customer X's site?", or "Is this release really of value to > >>> our customers or are we making it because a developer has come up with > >>> something cool that they want to show off?", and maintained a list of > >>> issues and considerations for the various deployments. This is where > >>> things like not allowing developers to see comments on their own apps, > >>> not allowing developers to list prices in other currencies, and not > >>> being able to create a firmware release for the ADP1 would have arisen. > > >>> To me it seems that these two jobs are either missing from the Android > >>> process or not being done very well. > > >>> Al. > > >>> Muthu Ramadoss wrote: > > >>>> I can only feel pity for the poor Googs. Man, my head is spinning with > >>>> the number of must fix issues going rounds already. > > >>>> Increasing internal memory > >>>> SDcard applications support > >>>> ADP1 updates > >>>> ADP1 paid app support > >>>> Providing Google binaries > > >>>> and on and on and on > >>>> ... > > >>>> take care, > >>>> Muthu Ramadoss. > > >>>>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 > >>>>http://androidrocks.in-Android Consulting. > > >>>> 2009/2/27 vendor.net <http://vendor.net> <vendor.net > >>>> <http://vendor.net>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>> > > >>>> Don`t be so sure. There is no official statement about that. I`ve > >>>> asked google (JBQ as a representative) if there will be paid apps and > >>>> copy protected apps in ADP 1, but he didn`t answer me with positive > >>>> maybe because they don`t know or don`t want to tell us their plans... > >>>> The whole concept of Android and the first android phone and ADP1 was > >>>> great till I found that we were kicked out of the paid apps. This > >>>> issue should be (I think - must be) resolved and ADP 1 should support > >>>> installing paid apps. > > >>>> On 25 Фев, 04:58, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>> > Yes, paid markets will be visible only after ADP updates that > >>>> google will > >>>> > hopefully provide soon. > > >>>> > take care, > >>>> > Muthu Ramadoss. > > >>>http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in- > > >>>> Android Consulting. > > >>>> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Troglodad <[email protected] > >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >>>> > > Sorry for the noob question, but do I understand that we can't > >>>> access > >>>> > > paid apps on the Dev1 until we get it updated? And that > >>>> whether we get > >>>> > > an update is up in the air? > > >>>> > > (I got my Dev1 in hopes of havign the time to learn the code > >>>> and start > >>>> > > making apps, but work and life are conspiring against me and > >>>> devouring > >>>> > > all my free time) > > >>> -- > > >>> * Written an Android App? - List it athttp://andappstore.com/* > > >>> ====== > >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > >>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >>> subsidiaries. > > -- > > * Written an Android App? - List it athttp://andappstore.com/* > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. 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