If you're going to delete the entire thread, and change the conversation completely: change the subject line and start a new one.
And no, it's not everybody's G1. If you understand whose fault things are, and what each entity's intentions are, you can make more informed purchases in the future. -- Eric On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote: > > You probably noticed that I've deleted the entire thread. I did it > intentionally because I'm going to rant about the G1 itself. > > I don't care if the user experience I get is T-Mobile's fault, ot > HTC's fault, or Google's fault - I don't go to the store and say "Hey, > give me that Google phone" or "that HTC phone", or that "T-Mobile" > phone. It's the T-Mobile G1 phone with hardware from HTC and OS by > Google, so it's everybody's G1. > > So anyway, I got my G1 on 3rd week of December, last year. The second > I saw it (I opened the package at UPS's office) it felt cheap > (compared to iPhone) but I thought let's use it for a while and held > that thought. I did for a couple of days as I learned what it can do > and can't do... > > To summarize: there's hardly a day I don't have all sorts of problems > with the device, especially after the 1.1 OTA update but I'm not going > to speculate it's the OTA's fault. > > The G1 sucks. No, it doesn't suck, it sucks balls. This is by far, the > WORST mobile gadget I've EVER got. > My 1st GSM was STEADIER than the G1, and I've never seen ONE SINGLE > device as bad as the G1 as a mobile phone, and I've had all sorts of > them -- Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Siemens, Fujitsu-Siemens, > Samsung, and more. > > 1. It lags - all apps off, no 3rd party services running, no nothing - > I press the Menu button, it "thinks" for a few seconds, during which > time the Home screen only has its background - no app icons, and you > can't scroll left/right - it simply won't react. If I insist on doing > something I get the dreaded "Wait or Force Close" dialog saying that > process com.android.acore (or whatever its name is) doesn't respond. A > few secs later I can use it. Let's say it an Android thing. > > I've seen this with several other apps, i.e. it's not the home > activity only. I've seen it with the dialer as well -- I try to make a > call, and get the dialog, hit wait, and then I can make the call. I'm > sure other STOCK apps have hung, just can't remember which. > > I've also seen it with the game I developed. Very, very, very rarely, > it would simply block after a touch, and if I continue tapping the > screen I'll get the dialog, otherwise I'll get the ANR logged but not > displayed. > > 2. The button to dial/answer a call, and to end a call won't react for > like 5 seconds. I have to continuously press them in order to answer > or hang up a call. It's been like that after the 1.1 OTA - and I mean > that as soon as the phone rebooted after the update, I started getting > this behavior. It's been like that months now. You can imagine how > many calls I've managed to miss, and how everytime I have to hang up I > feel, as I have to press the hang up button 15 times. > > 3. As of today, I'm hearing the dialing/ringing sound AFTER the call > has began. That is, I call someone, he answers, we start talking, and > I'm still hearing the ringing sound. I can also hear the ringing sound > AFTER someone else calls me and we're talking. > > 4. My calls end abruptly - that is, I'm talking to someone, and at > random time the phone would just break the call - it's not like I'm > accidentally pressing the hang up button because I don't see call end > up (the phone activity's screen in red). > > How here's a funny thing from today. I'm talking to a friend, and > we're about to discuss how G1 sucks, and how wonderful iPhone is :) > The *SECOND* my friend mentioned iPhone the call breaks. So I call him > again, and we resume the call with me starting to rant how BAD the G1 > is and how I've never seen such bullshits on an iPhone (BREAK), and I > call him again, and he says just ONE WORD and it's "iPhone" and the > call BREAKs, he's swearing on his family he didn't hang up to make a > joke and I believe him. Now, I don't believe in conspiracy theories, > and I'm sure the phone won't listen and intercept the word "iPhone" to > break a call, just sharing the experience. > > 5. This is an Android thing - the call log's "Clear log" menu item > won't ask me whether I want to delete it. It's extremely frustrating > because I put my G1 in a pocket, or in my wallet (I don't know the > English word for a very little man's bag, resembling a wallet), and > accidentally press the Menu button, it opens the menu and guess what - > "Clear log" is there, waiting to be tapped. > > > There are a LOT of other smaller things that annoy me, but these are > absolute killers. As of today, I'm going to use my G1 *only* for > development. I remember how much I wanted it, how I craved for it, how > I coveted it... now, I don't wanna see it, it annoys the hell out of > me. > > However, think about *this* -- perhaps I'm not the only one? What if > there are MANY users experiencing these issues? You know how much > devices T-Mobile sold last year, do you know how many were RETURNED or > will be? > > I'm going to keep an eye on Android and maybe I'll resume development > for Android devices some day but the way I see it it won't be soon. > > Now, I don't wanna say anything about Android - it's the OS's 1st > release, and God knows Android engineers have done a great job. > However, the user experience still sucks. It might be because it's > based on Linux, or perhaps because it uses the God damn Dalvik VM, or > I don't know what... I like what Google does -- I use Google (the > search engine), Gmail, Picassa, GTalk, Chrome... but it seems I'll > stop using my Android device for a while. > > Cheers > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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