Hi Al, please read my last post - I think that covers most of what you just said.
On Mar 10, 2:00 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > To me it's PR spending. Carriers do the advertising to consumers, Google pays > the carriers, simple as that. > > Yes, you might see it as unfair that when you're not using the carriers > service they shouldn't get a kick-back, but there are far whackier things > going in mobile 'phone land (e.g. Vodafone in the UK will sell you a > femtocell so you can get signal at home, but if you make a call using it the > minutes are deducted from your plan even though you bought the femtocell, you > pay for the electricity, and calls are routed over your ADSL line which you > pay for). > > If you add into that the complexities of trying to split the 30% you'll start > to see some of the problems. What happens if you buy using WiFi then download > via a cell signal?, or vice versa?, or you do it one way, factory reset your > 'phone, and then re-download the app the other way? > > It's all about priorities, from what you've said yours is about ensuring your > 'phone has the latest greatest version of Android, I suspect Googles is about > getting an approved version of Android to as many users as possible, and the > carriers are all about making money, and as Google and the carriers are the > ones signing the contracts and doing the deals I'm afraid you're priorities > are way down the list. > > Al. > -- > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > number 6741909. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily > those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. > > On 10 Mar 2010, at 12:34, westmeadboy wrote: > > > > > I use a prepaid plan from here:http://www.blau.de > > > I can see the idea of encouraging carriers to sell Android phones but > > this seems like an unfair way to do it. There is a difference between > > someone who uses the carrier network to buy a paid app and someone who > > uses wifi. A difference in terms of carrier costs. Even when the > > carrier network is used, the user is already paying for that. > > > My point is this. When I choose a carrier, it has nothing to do with > > whether they sell Android phones or not. It is completely independent. > > When downloading over wifi AND using a carrier-free firmware, you > > might as well give the 30% to the phone manufacturer (encourage them > > to make more Android devices). Better still, give it back to me and > > encourage me to buy more apps :) > > > I thought Google was trying to make the carrier more transparent (like > > with the sim-free Nexus One strategy)? > > > On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Does your carrier market & sell Android devices? > > >> Al. > >> -- > > >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > >> ====== > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > >> number 6741909. > > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >> subsidiaries. > > >> On 10 Mar 2010, at 12:04, westmeadboy wrote: > > >>> On Mar 10, 12:50 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> So if your firmware comes from a carrier, it's almost certainly going to > >>>> have their property settings in it by default, and hence it doesn't > >>>> matter where you are you're firmwares properties will determine the > >>>> access you have. > > >>> All my devices came unlocked (i.e. not from a carrier) and so the > >>> firmware is definitely not from a carrier. This is quite normal in > >>> mainland europe. > > >>> I always have a (german) sim card in my device and so always see paid > >>> apps but never access the Market over the carrier network. > > >>> It just doesn't make any sense that any cash should go to my carrier > >>> since they have done absolutely nothing to support Android - at least > >>> not for me. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Android Discuss" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Android Discuss" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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