Yes, of course. That's true for phones sold via carriers. The difference comes to phones sold in other ways, such as how I bought all of my devices. In those cases, the manufacturer reaps the financial benefit and so is encouraged to sell more android based phones (or make them a little cheaper).
On Mar 10, 2:16 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > All the suggestion from your last post would do is encourage carriers to > chose devices without market where they could add it to ensure the greatest > revenue from those devices. > > These aren't charities we're talking about, they're businesses looking to > maximise their profits, and if two 'phones fill a checklist and one offers a > zero or 15% kick back and the other offers 30% for the same thing I can be > pretty sure which one the carriers will pick. > > Al. > -- > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > number 6741909. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily > those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. > > On 10 Mar 2010, at 13:04, westmeadboy wrote: > > > > > Hi Al, please read my last post - I think that covers most of what you > > just said. > > > On Mar 10, 2:00 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> To me it's PR spending. Carriers do the advertising to consumers, Google > >> pays the carriers, simple as that. > > >> Yes, you might see it as unfair that when you're not using the carriers > >> service they shouldn't get a kick-back, but there are far whackier things > >> going in mobile 'phone land (e.g. Vodafone in the UK will sell you a > >> femtocell so you can get signal at home, but if you make a call using it > >> the minutes are deducted from your plan even though you bought the > >> femtocell, you pay for the electricity, and calls are routed over your > >> ADSL line which you pay for). > > >> If you add into that the complexities of trying to split the 30% you'll > >> start to see some of the problems. What happens if you buy using WiFi then > >> download via a cell signal?, or vice versa?, or you do it one way, factory > >> reset your 'phone, and then re-download the app the other way? > > >> It's all about priorities, from what you've said yours is about ensuring > >> your 'phone has the latest greatest version of Android, I suspect Googles > >> is about getting an approved version of Android to as many users as > >> possible, and the carriers are all about making money, and as Google and > >> the carriers are the ones signing the contracts and doing the deals I'm > >> afraid you're priorities are way down the list. > > >> Al. > >> -- > > >> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > >> ====== > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > >> number 6741909. > > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >> subsidiaries. > > >> On 10 Mar 2010, at 12:34, westmeadboy wrote: > > >>> I use a prepaid plan from here:http://www.blau.de > > >>> I can see the idea of encouraging carriers to sell Android phones but > >>> this seems like an unfair way to do it. There is a difference between > >>> someone who uses the carrier network to buy a paid app and someone who > >>> uses wifi. A difference in terms of carrier costs. Even when the > >>> carrier network is used, the user is already paying for that. > > >>> My point is this. When I choose a carrier, it has nothing to do with > >>> whether they sell Android phones or not. It is completely independent. > >>> When downloading over wifi AND using a carrier-free firmware, you > >>> might as well give the 30% to the phone manufacturer (encourage them > >>> to make more Android devices). Better still, give it back to me and > >>> encourage me to buy more apps :) > > >>> I thought Google was trying to make the carrier more transparent (like > >>> with the sim-free Nexus One strategy)? > > >>> On Mar 10, 1:18 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Does your carrier market & sell Android devices? > > >>>> Al. > >>>> -- > > >>>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > >>>> ====== > >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > >>>> number 6741909. > > >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > >>>> subsidiaries. > > >>>> On 10 Mar 2010, at 12:04, westmeadboy wrote: > > >>>>> On Mar 10, 12:50 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> So if your firmware comes from a carrier, it's almost certainly going > >>>>>> to have their property settings in it by default, and hence it doesn't > >>>>>> matter where you are you're firmwares properties will determine the > >>>>>> access you have. > > >>>>> All my devices came unlocked (i.e. not from a carrier) and so the > >>>>> firmware is definitely not from a carrier. This is quite normal in > >>>>> mainland europe. > > >>>>> I always have a (german) sim card in my device and so always see paid > >>>>> apps but never access the Market over the carrier network. > > >>>>> It just doesn't make any sense that any cash should go to my carrier > >>>>> since they have done absolutely nothing to support Android - at least > >>>>> not for me. > > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Android Discuss" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Android Discuss" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Android Discuss" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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