Dossy, Like I said you are the only one making statements about personal qualities.
Others have asked you to simply admit you made a mistake. But if you re-read my initial emails, I was focused on fixing the problem. I spent a number of hours researching the issue and writing code. I ran tests, I discovered a bug in the file contributed by Michael. We were working togeather to make the current code compatable with previous versions of AOLserver configuration files. But my testing revealed that the underlying C code no longer supported the previous features. Instead of apologies from the AOL team, or better: "oops! that isn't right, can you help fix it?", we were treated the new reality that the configuration method was going to be replaced with a magic oracle, that virtual servers might be ditched, and so on, so everything was okay, nothing needed to be changed. The apology was supposed to be for not communicating unilateral decisions to the community, not for continuing the problem. The response has been: sorry this is how we are going to do things, sorry you don't like it, sorry you didn't contribute enough to be included in the private discussion. Please explain how anyone can contribute if nothing is ever discussed? People contribute when they think they are part of the process, not to follow orders or write documentation for uncommented C code. What happened here is that one community member noticed that the old configuation parameters were not being used in version 4.5. A few of us instantly perked up realizing the significance of the issue. At first this looked like a big issue, but after reassurance from AOL developers and an initial analysis, it seemed easily fixed. I worked on a fix. Then I discovered the real issue. Was anyone on the AOL team happy to hear this? Did any of them even consider it a problem? Did any of them explain why it wasn't an issue, that I just simply do not know what I am talking about? Did any of them encourage me to contribute a fix? So I guess the answer to: > --it's hard for me to see what you're > actually trying to change or improve through your actions. I would simply say: to fix the bug which is the subject of this thread. I don't think I was the one who veered off course to discuss other issues, to discourage any fixing, our just to go away if I didn't like the current code. I still wish to fix this, although I would need input and suggestions as a few API would require change, as would the Pool data structure. The Tcl API would remain unchanged, although it would be nice to be able to query the current maps, or test which threadpool would handle a given url. tom jackson On Friday 03 August 2007 09:40, Dossy Shiobara wrote: > On 2007.08.03, Tom Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only person who called anyone anything was Dossy, who called me a > > griefer, based upon his definition of contribution and his perception > > that he's done much more of it than I have. > > Sorry, I shouldn't have used a word that doesn't have a widely > understood definition. Wikipedia's definition is a pretty good starting > point: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer > > "A griefer is a slang term used to describe a player in an online > video game who plays the game simply to cause grief to other players > through harassment." > > A "griefer" is one whose goal for participation is to "cause grief" for > other players. I said you make me feel like you're being a griefer > because your participation in this email thread has degenerated into > telling everyone what they're doing wrong, inciting people with > aggressive words, and complaining--it's hard for me to see what you're > actually trying to change or improve through your actions. > > If you're frustrated at the project's progress, or my involvement with > it, or anything else, and you feel the need to rant and complain, in > order to put it behind you and start moving forward again, I'm okay > with that. However, I'd just ask you to consider whether you think it's > appropriate for the mailing list, and if not, send it directly to the > person you feel the need to complain to or rant at. > > Thanks, > > -- Dossy -- AOLserver - http://www.aolserver.com/ To Remove yourself from this list, simply send an email to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> with the body of "SIGNOFF AOLSERVER" in the email message. You can leave the Subject: field of your email blank.