Good day, I want to point out that dative singular forms with trailing e ARE NOT grammatically incorrect. In fact those ARE the actual inflected dative forms. It is indeed no longer mandatory to use them and therefore hardly anybody does, but since they have never been removed from the official grammar people can use them whenever they see fit. And people do -- especially in idioms and in prose but also to improve pronounceability of certain word groups or to meet a particular style. (Philosophical texts are a good example.) It should also be noted that the dative e was virtually omnipresent until about 80 years ago and ditching anything written before then would be foolish. (Especially because it is still grammatically correct.)
Feel free to mark those forms as analysis-only wherever this has not happened yet. (the r="LR" thing) Sorry that I could not work that much on the dictionary lately. I've been busy learning for exams. Let me know if you need a particular change to the dictionary! Regards Benedikt Am 11.03.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Kevin Brubeck Unhammer: > [email protected] writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm working with the German apertium-deu monodix (for a eng-deu >> translation). >> >> I verified the dictionary and I notice that many of the noun >> pardef have two dative singulare forms (one and wrong always >> with an e at the end) >> >> e.g. <pardef n="Abf/all__n_m"> <e r="LR"><p><l>alle</l> <r>all<s >> n="n"/><s n="m"/><s n="sg"/><s n="dat"/></r></p><par >> n="cmp-R"/></e> <e> <p><l>all</l> <r>all<s n="n"/><s n="m"/><s >> n="sg"/><s n="dat"/></r></p><par n="cmp-R"/></e> >> >> >> In German grammar there is only one dat sg (and one dat pl). Are >> these second dat necessary for old translations? In my local >> installation I removed these entries. > > They're marked LR, which means they'll be accepted as an > alternative input form, but never generated. So they should be > harmless, except for in the cases where they are ambiguous with > some completely other form. > > From what I can tell, there are no non-noun forms that are > ambiguous with the e-datives: > > $ lt-expand apertium-deu.deu.dix |grep 'e:>:.*<n>.*<sg><dat>$'|sed > 's/:>:.*//' |sort -u >/tmp/e-datives $ lt-expand > apertium-deu.deu.dix |grep 'e:' |grep -v '<n>' |sed 's/:.*//'|grep > -xFf /tmp/e-datives # (no output) > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored > by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your > hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly > thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials > and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. > http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff > mailing list [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
