Agreed, that seems pretty clear.  But that's not how it works in reality.

That is, the primary maintainers of specific repositories give other people
write access, not the PMC.  E.g., when I give someone access to a Turkic
translation pair, it's not because I'm on the PMC, but because I'm a
maintainer of that pair.  I think the by-laws should probably be revised to
reflect a more realistic workflow.

Also, PMC members can certainly be pinged to give access, but does it
require a vote?  Does it require some research and/or checking with the
repo's primary maintainers?  (PMC members are not usually aware of the
social history of everyone seeking to contribute to any given language
pair, for example.)

--
Jonathan

ср, 26 февр. 2020 г. в 11:25, Mikel L. Forcada <m...@dlsi.ua.es>:

> I think this is well defined:
>
> "18 The responsibilities of the Project Management Committee include
> […]
> Giving access rights to new Committers.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mikel
>
>
> El 26/2/20 a les 17:22, Jonathan Washington ha escrit:
>
> That's a good start for a discussion about revising committer status in
> the bylaws, and maybe for use of a definition for the election, but it also
> raises a few questions:
>
> - How do we decide who's a member of the GitHub org?
> - How do we decide who has write access to an Apertium repo?
>
> These are decided somewhat arbitrarily at this point.
>
> Also, people decide not to include their email address on their GitHub
> profile for various reasons (though often don't take the care the mask it
> in their commit history).  I understand where you're going with this,
> though—and I think it's better stated the other way around: "for purposes
> of being contacted for voting, a committer's email address should be known
> to the PMC; they cannot expect to receive a ballot if they do not either
> have an email address posted on their GitHub profile or are a member of the
> apertium-stuff mailing list."
>
> Actually, though, admin access to the manage the apertium-stuff mailing
> list has been lost, iirc, so that might be problematic too.  We could
> potentially work something out with sourceforge to regain access though?
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> ср, 26 февр. 2020 г. в 11:03, Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Also, may I suggest a definition of "committer"?
>> * All members of the Apertium GitHub org (except, obviously,
>> ApertiumBot/begiak),
>> * Anyone with write access to an Apertium repo,
>> * Anyone who has submitted and had merged a PR in the last 6 months
>> Anyone in any of the categories above must have an email address on
>> his/her GitHub profile.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 7:27 AM Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, so it sounds like I can run.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 05:26 Tino Didriksen <m...@tinodidriksen.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 13:13, Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any requirement for PMC members to be over 18? And, how much
>>>>> of a time commitment is this?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Undefined. I would say that to be a PMC member, you just need to be 13
>>>> - that would comply with various worldwide laws.
>>>>
>>>> But, any power of the purse should be restricted to 18+, again to
>>>> comply with contract laws.
>>>>
>>>> As for time spent ... well, if previous years is any indication, less
>>>> than an hour per week on average. Vast majority of time spent on Apertium
>>>> isn't really spent on PMC-specific matters.
>>>>
>>>> -- Tino Didriksen
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