So a PR is not sufficient?

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:50 AM Jonathan Washington <
jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed, that seems pretty clear.  But that's not how it works in reality.
>
> That is, the primary maintainers of specific repositories give other
> people write access, not the PMC.  E.g., when I give someone access to a
> Turkic translation pair, it's not because I'm on the PMC, but because I'm a
> maintainer of that pair.  I think the by-laws should probably be revised to
> reflect a more realistic workflow.
>
> Also, PMC members can certainly be pinged to give access, but does it
> require a vote?  Does it require some research and/or checking with the
> repo's primary maintainers?  (PMC members are not usually aware of the
> social history of everyone seeking to contribute to any given language
> pair, for example.)
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
> ср, 26 февр. 2020 г. в 11:25, Mikel L. Forcada <m...@dlsi.ua.es>:
>
>> I think this is well defined:
>>
>> "18 The responsibilities of the Project Management Committee include
>> […]
>> Giving access rights to new Committers.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mikel
>>
>>
>> El 26/2/20 a les 17:22, Jonathan Washington ha escrit:
>>
>> That's a good start for a discussion about revising committer status in
>> the bylaws, and maybe for use of a definition for the election, but it also
>> raises a few questions:
>>
>> - How do we decide who's a member of the GitHub org?
>> - How do we decide who has write access to an Apertium repo?
>>
>> These are decided somewhat arbitrarily at this point.
>>
>> Also, people decide not to include their email address on their GitHub
>> profile for various reasons (though often don't take the care the mask it
>> in their commit history).  I understand where you're going with this,
>> though—and I think it's better stated the other way around: "for purposes
>> of being contacted for voting, a committer's email address should be known
>> to the PMC; they cannot expect to receive a ballot if they do not either
>> have an email address posted on their GitHub profile or are a member of the
>> apertium-stuff mailing list."
>>
>> Actually, though, admin access to the manage the apertium-stuff mailing
>> list has been lost, iirc, so that might be problematic too.  We could
>> potentially work something out with sourceforge to regain access though?
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan
>>
>> ср, 26 февр. 2020 г. в 11:03, Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Also, may I suggest a definition of "committer"?
>>> * All members of the Apertium GitHub org (except, obviously,
>>> ApertiumBot/begiak),
>>> * Anyone with write access to an Apertium repo,
>>> * Anyone who has submitted and had merged a PR in the last 6 months
>>> Anyone in any of the categories above must have an email address on
>>> his/her GitHub profile.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 7:27 AM Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay, so it sounds like I can run.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 05:26 Tino Didriksen <m...@tinodidriksen.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 13:13, Scoop Gracie <scoopgra...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any requirement for PMC members to be over 18? And, how much
>>>>>> of a time commitment is this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Undefined. I would say that to be a PMC member, you just need to be 13
>>>>> - that would comply with various worldwide laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, any power of the purse should be restricted to 18+, again to
>>>>> comply with contract laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for time spent ... well, if previous years is any indication, less
>>>>> than an hour per week on average. Vast majority of time spent on Apertium
>>>>> isn't really spent on PMC-specific matters.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Tino Didriksen
>>>>>
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