Hello Howard:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:20:39 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger) wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:39:08 -0500,
> "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think L.D. is correct in saying that NetTamer is the only "html capable"
>> DOS application that supports direct access to newsgroups by means of an
>> email client.
> It's been quite some time since I've tried Net-Tamer, but I don't
> recall accessing newsgroups by means of an email client. I thought
> it was the news (nntp) client that did that.
Of course I realize that it is the nntp client that actually does this, but
in the case of NetTamer and PC-PINE the nntp client works the same as the
email client as far as the appearances on your front-end interface are
concerned. I'm talking only about the "look and feel" here, not the
technical nitty-gritty. I regret my oversight in having neglected to say
this in my post to which you have responded.
I do know that there is a facility within NetTamer to use it in a manner
very similar to the email feature for access to newsgroups, to include
the downloading, reading, and posting of newsgroups articles. I sometimes
use NetTamer for this purpose. PC-PINE also works just like the email
feature for newsgroup access, at least as far as the "look and feel" is
concerned.
>> I would like to point out that I know of at least one DOS
>> email client that supports newsgroup access, and that is PC-PINE, but
>> PC-PINE isn't "html capable". I don't know if there are any other DOS
>> email clients other than PC-PINE and NetTamer that offer newsgroup access.
> I'm not sure why you are treating nntp and Usenet as some sort of
> add-on to the WWW or e-mail. As far as I am concerned, they are
> distinct, and are best handled by specialized software. Newsgroup
> access is one thing, but, IMHO, Net-Tamer and PC-Pine can't hold
> a candle to Yarn and other dedicated DOS newsreaders.
I haven't tried using Yarn or any other dedicated newsreaders. For that
reason I can't compare them to PC-PINE or NetTamer.
> Also, when talking about e-mail and news clients, I think it is
> important to distinguish between the transport or protocol part
> (smtp, pop3, imap, nntp) and the message reading part and between
> online and offline news reading.
Yes, I am aware that there exist differences in the transport and protocol,
and I do know the difference between offline and online newsreading.
NetTamer works fine as an offline newsreader and PC-PINE is good for use as
an online newsreader.
>> I too would like very much to see newsgroup access built into
>> Arachne's email client.
> That's fine, but I am suggesting that there is more to it than
> you and L.D. seem to think.
As I discussed above, I do know that it is possible for newsgroup access to
look as though it were similar to email, as far as appearances on your
front-end interface are concerned. This is the way it works in the case of
PC-PINE and NetTamer. I am discussing only the look and feel of the
interface here, not the real nitty-gritty of the protocols and transport
systems and programming involved. I said nothing to imply that it would be
easy or simple to incorporate newsgroup access into Arachne, but it sure
would be a nice thing to have as an additional feature. Just dreaming.
Regards,
Sam Heywood
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