On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Edenyard wrote:

>    When I type 'startx', I get something that I now know is called a
> window manager. 

  Yes.

> Yet I seem to understand from the messages on this
> thread that you don't HAVE to have a WM running with X - 

  Correct.

> X could run
> e.g. Netscape on its own - have I got that right? In which case, how do
> you 'startx' without starting a WM with it? 

  The most basic way to start Arachne under X by itself is:

'xinit /full/path/to/arachne-ggi'

  If you don't want to bother with typing the whole
path to the app, you can alternately do:

'xinit $(which arachne-ggi)'

  See the man page for xinit if you want to discover
all the switches and parameters you can apply to that.

> Also, if you could run X and
> then Netscape, how would you also run, say, the dialler to get Netscape
> connected? 

  You could either run the dialer first, or you could
switch to an alternate console to run it.
<ALT><CTRL><F2> for instance.

> Lastly, what file (or whatever) controls what WM you get when
> you run 'startx'? 

  Heh... the answer to that depends on a lot of things.
See my last response to Clarence.

> On Slack 3.5 it's something with a pleasant cyan background.

  That would most likely be fvwm95.
 
> On Redhat 7.1, it's either KDE or Gnome 

  Actually Gnome and KDE are DE's, not wm's
Gnome runs Enlightenment as its default wm, and has
the option for running twm as an alternate.
I forget which wm KDE uses.

> (could I get the cyan thing from Slack3.5?). 

  It's probably already installed.  Do 'which fvwm2'
  
  If you get a path to that, then you should have the
"Win95" look that goes with it.

>       Gerald (still with tons to learn!)

  We all have tons to learn.  Just now I had to look
in the man page to discover how to run X without a
wm.  ;-)

 - Steve


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