On Tue, 18 Sep 2001 01:42:01 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:
> Hi
>>> It was an attack at the 'satan' called usa. They firmly believe in
>>> this view, and it is partly motivated by US foreign politics.
> SH> Regardless of how firmly they believe in this view, there are no
> SH> circumstances which could tend to excuse and mitigate their actions.
> Sure ...
> nobody wants to excuse their actions ... they devastated parts of new york,
> and killed THOUSANDS of people.
> But we have to understand why they did it, so that we can prevent further
> attacks.
This is something that defies understanding. I don't think it will
ever be possible for us to understand why the terrorists who attacked
the WTC and the Pentagon did what they did. I don't think we will
ever understand why Hitler and his followers in the SS did what they
did. I don't think we will ever understand why McVeigh and Kazinski
did what they did. I don't think we will ever understand why the
kids who carried out the Columbine Massacre did what they did. I
don't think we will ever understand why Jack the Ripper and and the
Milwaukee Cannibal did what they did. I could go on and on naming
some of the most incorrigible sociopaths reported throughout history
and commenting about how we will never understand what they did. The
only way I can see to prevent further attacks is to improve security
and intelligence gathering. The problem with this approach is that
it would encroach upon personal privacy and it will create
considerable inconvenience and annoyance and unjust accusations and
suspicions against the innocent. I remember the good old days when
every boy carried a pocket knife to school. We would sit down on a
bench in the playground at recess and whittle out a whistle or a
flute from a wooden stick. Even our teachers would show us how, and
they would teach us how to cut by using the techniques that are safe.
None of us were ever thought of as a threat to other students just
because we carried pocket knives. Nowadays any kid caught carrying a
pocket knife to school is expelled for carrying a dangerous weapon.
Nobody is interested in hearing about the child's constructive
intentions for the use of the knife. When children are being told by
their teachers that a knife is a thing carried only by evil people
for the purpose of stabbing people and slitting throats, then the
children will of course lose respect for their teachers and wonder
about their credibility.
> Only killing bin laden will not really change the situation.
> They will claim that he is a martyr (?spelling?)
> You have to take away their motivation.
A fellow list subscriber, Or Botton of Israel, has made the same
observation. He says that his government is ineffective in trying
to suppress terrorism simply by killing off some known terrorists.
He says others will always soon pop up to take their place and the
slain terrorist leaders become martyrs for the cause.
> Why does somebody hate the US so much, that he will kill himself, only to
> kill US citizens.
Some people say that the terrorist has been deluded into thinking
that if he dies while killing some evil-mongering infidels (i.e.
Americans) he will go directly to heaven and he will wake up the
next instant in a pleasure palace with 40 virgins to serve him.
> SH> I don't like US foreign politics either. My dislike for US foreign
> SH> politics does not provide me or anyone else with a justification for
> SH> murdering anybody.
> There is no justification for murder. Never can there be.
> (i can't even understand why a country kills prisoners ... but this is
> another story, which does not belong here now)
> The attackers have to be punished ... no question.
They don't care if they are punished. They have a religiously
motivated persecution complex. The more punishment they suffer
for their righteous cause in the present life, the greater their
reward in the hereafter.
> But as long as the motivation which triggered this attacks (for which no
> justification is possible) is up, so long the situation will not relax.
> And massive bombings will only worsen it.
> Thanks god that it now looks much better.
> The US has cooled down a bit, and can now thibk out some strategies, that
> will hurt the terrorists. (bombing up some tents does not impress them, but
> if the people behind, supporting them are scared/imprisoned/whatsoever this
> will hit them very hard.)
In order for any measures to be effective, they have to hit them so hard
that they will begin to question the validity of their religious beliefs.
> If Bush makes things all right, he has even the majority of arabs behind
> him. (most of them are as shocked about the attack as the rest of the
> world)
> (on the other hand one of Bush's well known "slip of his" tongue can ruin
> that support)
Bush's "slips of the tongue" are a result of his Texas heritage
and a carryover arising from his respect for the ways of his
cowboy ancestors who lived according to the "Code of the West",
which stipulates that it is perfectly fair to issue a challenge
and stroll out onto the street and draw down on the one who
draws first. Those were not the days of "law and order" as we
now know it. In order for the authorities to bring in accused
criminals they had to publish posters announcing rewards for
persons WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE. In his anguish Bush sometimes
loses sight of the fact that we are no longer living in those
bygone times. He has his able advisors standing by to remind him
of that and to tell him about how things are in the present era.
You need not worry about what Bush will actually do, but you
might continue to be apalled by some of his "slips of the tongue".
Such are common among cowboys and they like to laugh with each
other about these things while sitting around the old camp fire.
Other things that are common among cowboys are to walk tall, ride
hard, shoot straight, and to always tell the truth.
> SH> There can never be any justification whatsoever
> SH> for committing an outright murder.
> I agree 10000% ... I feel just the same ...
> now it's really late ... so good night.
> sorry for the misunderstanding ... this should really not have happened.
I hope you are enjoying a good night's sleep. At this late hour I am
still awake and I am still busy replying to my email. I will go to
bed now.
Sam Heywood
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