Ah, well, looks like I missed some of the answers in this thread.  Sorry
for the repeat information!

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Adam Cox <[email protected]> wrote:

> HI Lucy, one thing to check is the ENTITY_TYPE_X_ADOC.csv.  Did you update
> that with the new nodes?  In fact, the authority document nodes in the
> resource graphs are just place holders.  The actual linkages between nodes
> and domains happens in the ENTITY_TYPE_X_ADOC.csv file.
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Carlisle, Philip <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lucy,
>> This isn't a back end problem. If the node/entity IS in the dropdown then
>> you need to do what I said originally.
>>
>> Using the 'Add Dropdown entry' (see screenshot).
>>
>> The reason that the entire vocabulary isn't just replicated in the
>> dropdwon, and therefore you have to add it, is that there are often times
>> when you want to use a larger vocabulary for many different dropdowns, for
>> instance taking sections of the Getty AAT and adding them for use in
>> various dropdowns.
>>
>> The process is quite quick; you merely add the top level concepts by
>> searching for them. The largest thesaurus I imported was 6000+ concepts but
>> it only took me 10 minutes to add the 18 top concepts to the dropdown and
>> now I have access to all 6000+ in my monument type field.
>>
>> It may seem like a pain but it is actually quite sensible as it means
>> that the person responsible for the vocabularies has more flexibility.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Phil Carlisle
>> Data Standards Supervisor
>> Data Standards Unit, Listing Group
>> Historic England
>> The Engine House
>> Fire Fly Avenue
>> Swindon
>> SN2 2EH
>> Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>
>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lucy Fletcher-Jones [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 25 January 2016 14:43
>> To: Carlisle, Philip
>> Cc: Arches Project; Mai Abdelaziz El Kady
>> Subject: Re: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> authority document load
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> Yes, we have followed step 9 and that seems to work, because the new
>> nodes with all the concepts appear in the first list of the RDM. The new
>> node/entity itself also appears in the drop down list section but just not
>> with any of the concepts added as drop downs. It is a back-end problem and
>> we're probably missing something simple.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> Lucy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carlisle, Philip" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Lucy Fletcher-Jones" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Arches Project" <[email protected]>; "Mai Abdelaziz El
>> Kady" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:45 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> authority document load
>>
>>
>> Hi Lucy,
>> I'm sure you can. You just need to create the dropdown. I think this must
>> be back end stuff though as you can't create a completely new dropdown
>> through the RDM as far as I can tell.
>>
>> Have you followed step 9 of the documentation for loading reference data?
>> See
>>
>> http://arches3.readthedocs.org/en/latest/arches-data/#loading-reference-data
>>
>> That may help.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Phil Carlisle
>> Data Standards Supervisor
>> Data Standards Unit, Listing Group
>> Historic England
>> The Engine House
>> Fire Fly Avenue
>> Swindon
>> SN2 2EH
>> Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824
>>
>> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lucy Fletcher-Jones [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: 25 January 2016 11:36
>> To: Carlisle, Philip
>> Cc: Arches Project; Mai Abdelaziz El Kady
>> Subject: Re: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> authority document load
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>> Yes, I am talking about a new node with a new authority document attached
>> to it, which has a new input field. Neither the RDM nor the input field
>> show the concepts in the dropdown. I know I can add these through the RDM
>> but I thought there would be a quicker way to do it through loading the
>> authority document directly into Arches.
>>
>> Lucy
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 13:21, Carlisle, Philip
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Lucy,
>> > Sorry my misunderstanding. I thought you were simply talking about the
>> > addition of concepts to a dropdown but you're actually talking about
>> > the creation of a new dropdown.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> > Phil Carlisle
>> > Data Standards Supervisor
>> > Data Standards Unit, Listing Group
>> > Historic England
>> > The Engine House
>> > Fire Fly Avenue
>> > Swindon
>> > SN2 2EH
>> > Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824
>> >
>> > http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>> > http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Lucy Fletcher-Jones [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > Sent: 25 January 2016 10:51
>> > To: Carlisle, Philip; Arches Project
>> > Cc: Mai Abdelaziz El Kady
>> > Subject: Re: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> > authority document load
>> >
>> > Hi Phil,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your reply, but I don't understand it. We have
>> > completely the changed the cultural period authority document, for
>> > instance, admittedly possibly with fewer concepts on it but it loads
>> > onto the drop down fine, likewise the keyword authority file. Is it
>> > where we've added additional concepts to an authority file, making it
>> longer than before?
>> >
>> > Lucy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Carlisle, Philip" <[email protected]>
>> > To: "Lucy FJ" <[email protected]>; "Arches Project"
>> > <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:02 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> > authority document load
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Lucy,
>> >> I'm afraid you have to add the concepts to the relevant dropdown
>> >> yourself.
>> >> Similarly if you've added any concepts to any of the pre-existing
>> >> authority documents you'll need to add them to the dropdown as well.
>> >>
>> >> The good news is you only have to add the highest level terms and
>> >> their children will automatically be added as well.
>> >>
>> >> Phil
>> >>
>> >> Phil Carlisle
>> >> Data Standards Supervisor
>> >> Data Standards Unit, Listing Group
>> >> Historic England
>> >> The Engine House
>> >> Fire Fly Avenue
>> >> Swindon
>> >> SN2 2EH
>> >> Tel: +44 (0)1793 414824
>> >>
>> >> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/
>> >> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [email protected]
>> >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy FJ
>> >> Sent: 25 January 2016 09:01
>> >> To: Arches Project
>> >> Subject: [Arches] Adding concepts to drop down lists through
>> >> authority document load
>> >>
>> >> We have created new authority documents for new nodes and they are
>> >> loading correctly and appearing in the concepts list but not in the
>> >> drop down section of the RDM and therefore not in the input forms. We
>> >> have used 'index' as the concept type and in every respect they look
>> >> like the standard authority documents such as cultural period whose
>> >> concepts do appear in the dropdown lists. What are we missing and
>> >> what do we need to do?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you, Lucy
>> >>
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