Well Rob, we would have both of our name servers on topologically distinct 
networks but ARIN denied our small IPv4 allocation request!  You proved my 
point that small Orgs have it tougher than larger ones getting resources.  

Steven L Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Seastrom [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Seastrom
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: 'Owen DeLong'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness


Steven Ryerse <[email protected]> writes:

> But you ignore the reality of life in a small Org that has limited 
> resources.  They are spending all their time just trying to keep their 
> doors open and don't have the extra time to participate even if they 
> want to.

Having worked at tiny organizations for the majority of the time I served on 
the ARIN AC as well as NANOG committees and board, this argument rings hollow.

At the end of the day, it's a matter of priorities.  Prudence would dictate 
that one participate in governance and standards bodies if they are doing stuff 
that directly affects one's business.  Prudence also dictates that one follow 
BCPs regarding putting nameservers for one's zone on topologically distinct 
networks.

In both cases, people sometimes prioritize differently, and they often get away 
with it.  There may even be valid business reasons for doing so (cost outweighs 
benefit for instance).

But if you choose to not participate, you've still made a choice.

-r

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