Everyone in this Community has a self-serving agenda.  That is how it should 
be.  I won't apologize for mine and I won't ask you to apologize for yours.  

Steven L Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 6:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Internet Fairness

On 12/21/14 1:57 PM, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Well Rob, we would have both of our name servers on topologically distinct 
> networks but ARIN denied our small IPv4 allocation request!  You proved my 
> point that small Orgs have it tougher than larger ones getting resources.


No, small orgs do not have it tougher. An inability to grok the NRPM is maybe a 
personal difficulty, but not a barrier one that warrants policy change. I say 
this as someone who just got ARIN resources to start up an IX this September 
and other resources previously like a /22 for another org back when I had to 
have two /24's from upstreams (and an additional sometime later that was denied 
at first but accepted on the second try). 
I don't think orgs get any smaller or more difficult than trying to gather 
support to justify the launch of an IX in a region where such a thing is 
considered foreign concept, yet getting the resources from ARIN was the easiest 
step.

I see nothing in your arguments that would makes things easier for a small org, 
speaking as one myself that you claim would benefit. I cringe every time I see 
claims of "speaking for small orgs". Honestly, it comes off as a self serving 
agenda with a desire to harm the community to benefit one person. I have been 
denied in the past but what I didn't do was blow up at the community or develop 
a vendetta; it made me work to present a better justification for next time. 
Too bad if "work" is hard for a small org, suck it up or get a different job. 
If ARIN denied you however many times for resources I'm starting to think it 
deserved to be denied, but without an unbiased party making it available for 
the community to review we'll never know the truth.

~Seth
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