Hi Bill and Joe,


This is why my proposal doesn't change the relationship between ARIN and LIRs, 
who have the same responsibility of ensuring need that LIRs always have.

Just absent the circuit itself, which doesn't change the justification data.



Regards,
Mike







---- On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 02:59:42 -0400 William Herrin <b...@herrin.us> wrote 
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:40 PM Joe Maimon <mailto:jmai...@chl.com> wrote: 
> Delegating 
> ARIN's role to LIR's absent technical needs would have to be on the 
> basis that it somehow improves IPv4 stewardship in a manner more 
> efficient and in-line with community goals and consensus. I think that 
> would be a high bar to meet. 
 
Huh. Now there's an idea. What if LIRs were required to refer the 
approval process for blocks of 256 or more addresses to ARIN? 
Grandfather for existing delegations but make it so the maximum size 
block a LIR could independently approve is a /25. Then if the end 
user, having met ARIN's burden, wanted to lease instead of buy then so 
be it? 
 
Strictly spitballing here. I don't know that I'd support such a 
proposal but I want to throw it out there for discussion. 
 
Regards, 
Bill Herrin 
 
 
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