Ditto
 
You may have real tough time but the knowledge, confidence you will gain
at the end will tremendous as compared to training. I am not trying to
devaluate the training but just training can be forgotten, however
experience can not.
 
Finally you can always fall back on ARSlister.
 
Best Regards,
 
Uday 

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** 
When you're in a bad situation, sometimes its just best to cut your
losses and move on.  In your case, I'd recommend sticking it out a
little longer,  if you're interested in working with Remedy.  Remedy
professionals are in short supply, so if its something you like, a good
career path.  This is your foot in the door for getting hired as a
Remedy professional.  Being able to put down on your resume that you
were involve with implementing ITSM 7 Suite for XYZ company is huge. 

Its sad they drop a ton of cash on purchasing ITSM, maintenance,
hardware, consulting, and skip on training you properly.  They're
setting you up for failure.  I recommend that you persist in requesting
training so you can adequately support the system.  Ultimately, you need
to figure out what's in your best interest and weigh the pros and cons
of staying/moving on. 

Luck with whatever you decide. 


Ben Cantatore
Remedy Administrator
Avon
(914) 935-2946 



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the first phase (which is finally in freeze) is exactly the 3 areas
you listed.  the vendor installed a vanilla system (no data imports,
no customizations). Everything else (foundation data, basic sla, minor
customizations) was done by me.
The pm (both vendor and internal) were non existent. No coder.

I've learned a lot so far but I'm ready to move on now. I still have
had no BMC Training whatsoever (and they tell me now that it's not in
the budget).

I'm really nervous about the next phase - change and problem (possibly
full slm).

Anyway thanks for the feedback. It's nice to hear from people who know
something about ars.

Howard Richter wrote:
> Lets say your installing ServiceDesk 7, SLM, Requestor and Incident.
>
>
>
> With no data migration and limited customizations, I would say you
would
> need 3 people.
>
>
>
> One a pm, who would also translate how the system works to management.
>
> One a Application admin, to work on the setup of the system
>
> And the last person, you will need a coder.
>
>
>
> The Pm needs to also be as coder, but one that can do the translations
> needed for upper management.
>
>
>
> Howard
>
>
> On 10/4/07, Rick Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ** Well, that depends on the timeline involved, as I'm sure you
know, as
> > well as a number of things like the scope of work.  Without knowing
the
> > scope (i.e. what is involved in "configuring"), I could only guess
at the
> > proper time and resource requirements.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On 10/4/07, Ri Mez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >

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