Hmmm, we depending on what patches are available and the specifics to this
issue we may want not go directly to MT 7.1 on the new web server.

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From: *Michelle L* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]


**
Hello, Friends:

Anyone else experience this slowness on Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002?.  It's
quite noticeable.

We've noticed an interesting thing on Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002 (on both
Apache Tomcat and Servlet Exec).
It doesn't seem to matter what if the version of the ARS Server is 6.3 or
7.1.0, the culprit seems to be this version of Mid-Tier (7.1.00 Patch 002)
When *selecting an item* from a results list of let's say 1000+ records, the
response time between record selections is roughly 6.87 - 12.18 seconds
When* selecting an item* from the results list of about 200 records (same
form), the response time between record selections is 1.02 seconds.
(Selecting an item refers to a single click on the results list)

For these we used SHR:People and performed a search using the same
qualification in each environment.

*I performed a search on SHR:People using a Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002
against an ARS 6.3 Patch 23 server*
Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002 ----> ARS 6.3 (SHR:People)
Results list of 3300+, selecting a record yields a lag time of about  6.87
seconds
Results list of 73 , selecting a record  yields a lag time of 1.02 seconds

*I performed a search on SHR:People using a Mid-Tier 6.3.0 Patch 20 against
the same  ARS 6.3 Patch 23 server*
Mid-Tier 6.3.0 Patch 20 --> ARS 6.3 P23 (SHR:People)
Results list of 3300+, selecting a record yields a lag time of about 0.61
seconds
Results list of 73, selecting a record yields a lag time of 0.59


*I performed a search on SHR:People using a Mid-Tier 7.0.1 Patch 004 against
the same ARS 6.3 Patch 23 server*
Mid-Tier 7.0.1 patch 004 --> ARS 6.3 P23 SHR:People
Results list of 3300+, selecting a record yields a lag time of 0.53 seconds
Results list of 73, selecting a record yields a lag time of 0.50 seconds

*I performed a search on CTM:People (yeah I know its different) using a
Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002 against ARS 7.1.0 Patch 002*
Results list of 1000+, selecting a record yields a lag time of 12.18 seconds
Results list of 2, selecting a record yields a lag time of 1.87 seconds.

Every bit of this points to an issue with Mid-Tier 7.1.00 Patch 002, whether
it is pointing at a 6.3 server or a 7.1.0 patch 002 server.  And as I
mentioned before the behavior is consistent no matter what form's results
list we are selecting an entry from.

Anyone?
Thanks,
Michelle

Environment
Windows 2003, IIS 6, Apache Tomcat or Servlet Exec
Windows 2003, SQL Server 2000 for ARS 6.3, SQL Server 2005 for ARS 7.1.0
Patch 002.


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From: *strauss* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:39 AM
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** I guess so... when I open a list of all Incidents (726 records) and click
on any one of them, anywhere in the list, it blacks out - then displays the
record in 7 seconds consistently.  It was about 6 seconds on a returned list
of 1000 of the 142,869 records in CTM:People.

Did you measure faster times for mid-tier 7.1.00.001 or 7.1.00??  I'm not
sure that they were any faster, and even if they were, I need the corrected
Safari 3.x compatibility and persistent prefetch file that survives tomcat
crashes that are in patch 002 more than I need better speed.  It would
certainly point to something that needs to be improved in 7.1.00.003 or 004.

Windows 2003 Ent x64, Tomcat 5.5.26 under Mid-Tier 7.1.00.002 with
persistent prefetch
Windows 2003 Ent x64, SQL Server 2005 x64, ARS 7.1.00.002

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/


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Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:52 AM
To: [email protected]


** BTW, the same test on the Incident Results list of 728 Incidents takes 1
second to switch between records in Safari 3.1.1, and no black
screen/spinner appears.  Firefox 2.0.0.14 works the same as IE 7 on XP did
(original test), with 6 seconds to switch records, and the spinner showing
over grayed out records.  The problem _may_ be specific to the code they
load for each browser.  Safari on the Mac is dramatically faster.

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From: *strauss* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM
To: [email protected]


You piqued my curiosity enough to "pollute" my XP box with new installs
of Safari and Firefox.  The results were almost the same as on the
MacBook Pro, only Firefox was twice as slow as it had been on the Mac.
Safari changes Incident records in 1 to 1.5 seconds  Firefox is more
like 11 or 12 seconds. Even after flushing all of the temporary files
from IE 7 it still hits at 7 seconds.  Go Safari!!
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From: *Michelle L* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:31 PM
To: [email protected]


**
Hi, Christopher:

Thank you for responding.

I've tested it on Mid-Tier 7.1.00.00 Patch 002.  I don't have another 7.1.00
mid-tier version in the environment.

I forgot to mention that we are also using prefetch.   We've also followed
all of the instructions to improve performance on the Mid-Tier, including
turning off the automated 'Perform Definition' check, speeding up IIS
performance, updating the registry to no avail.

Thanks,
Michelle


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Date: Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM
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Hey, Christopher:

I will definitely pass this good info on to my team...and to tech
support..who has yet to give me a legitimate response besides....the usual
send me your log.  I just want them to try it for themselves.

By the way, I am using IE 6.0 for a browser.  I have not tried this on
another browser.  The User Tool works pretty fast, with less than one second
between selects on either a 7.1.00 patch 002 or 6.3 p23 User Tool.

Thank you again,
Michelle


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From: *Mike Gould* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:57 AM
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** Hi Michelle and Christopher,

Not sure if this helps but I'm also seeing very slow performance with my
development Mid-Tier 7.1.00 (No Patch) against our production ARS 7.0.01
Patch 003 server.

I performed the two following tests:

1.  Searched on HPD:Help Desk (Incident) using our production Mid-Tier
7.0.01 Patch 004 against our production ARS 7.0.01 Patch 003 server
Results list of 2154, selecting a record yields a lag time of ~2 to 3
seconds
Results list of 20, selecting a record yields a lag time of ~1 to 2 seconds.


2.  Searched on HPD:Help Desk (Incident) using our development Mid-Tier
7.1.00 (No Patch) against our production ARS 7.0.01 Patch 003 server
Results list of 2154, selecting a record yields a lag time of ~29 seconds!!!

Results list of 20, selecting a record yields a lag time of ~4 seconds.

I'll be upgrading our development Mid-Tier to 7.1.00 Patch 002 to hopefully
fix an unrelated CI Viewer problem but it doesn't appear I should expect
great improvements in the overall performance.

One other concern I have with Mid-Tier 7.1.00.00x is the black screen every
time a record is selected in the results list, at least when using XP/IE7.
Hopefully that's fixed soon since it's a major show stopper for me along
with the slow performance.  Although it sounds like that behavior
doesn't happen with Safari, which I think I'll be downloading now....

Regards,
Michael Gould
US House of Representatives

Production Environment
Solaris 9, Oracle 10gR2, ARS 7.0.01 Patch 003, Mid-Tier 7.0.01 Patch 004 (w/
bundled Apache Tomcat)

Development Environment
Solaris 9, Mid-Tier 7.1.00 No Patch (w/ bundled Apache Tomcat)

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