hi,

I too thought the same. Well will check soon.

Thanks,
Viki


Danny Kellett-3 wrote:
> 
> You can use the compiled bins against a newer AR server as it will detect
> the version. The only time you need to recompile with the new api libs is
> if you need the new functionality. Until then, just continue to use the
> compiled binaries compiled with the previous version.
> 
> Kind regards
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 29 Dec 2010, at 07:43, Misi Mladoniczky <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You may very well be able to use the old binaries against the new
>> version.
>> 
>> If you recompile your C-programs, you may need to do a few changes. The
>> control-struct has been expanded some, and a few API-calls has new
>> parameters where you will typically put a NULL or a 0 (zero) depending on
>> the parameter-type.
>> 
>> If you access the database directly, I hope you use the named views
>> rather
>> than the actual table names of your form, such as T123, as these may
>> change if you do a new install.
>> 
>>        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>> 
>> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10):
>> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
>> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
>> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
>> 
>>> There is no major change in 7.5, 7.6.03 API static/dynamic library calls
>>> and change in length or type.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Viki_kulkarni
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:48 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Massive upgrade challenge!!
>>> 
>>> We have a complex application in place and yes its home grown system. I
>>> think we can go with straight upgrade if needed after we try the
>>> migration
>>> idea given by Misi on development server.
>>> 
>>> I am worried about is the interfaces that are present most of them are
>>> shell
>>> scripts and C programs to push and pull data out of the system.
>>> 
>>> If I am not wrong I don't have to worry about the interfaces as it is
>>> completely customized application and AR upgrade will treat it as some
>>> workflow which does not involve any system form(except user form) and
>>> wont
>>> change it except field length and type. Correct me if I am wrong.
>>> 
>>> - Viki
>>> 
>>> 
>>> patrick zandi wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Why not just stand up a 7.5 / 7.6.03 server and migrate your users and
>>>> groups.
>>>> Leave both systems up for 30 days, and then archive the old one, and do
>>>> away
>>>> with it?
>>>> 
>>>> 5.01 used older varchar for oracle, and clobs, and the migration seems
>>>> excessive for such an old system.
>>>> if they need the old one, just let it sit there for 6 months.. is it
>>>> hurting
>>>> anything? make it read only, and no creates.
>>>> 
>>>> just a thought.  This has to be a home grown system, Remedy
>>>> Applications
>>>> were not out yet.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Axton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ** I was able to upgrade successfully from 6.3 to 7.5 without too many
>>>>> issues.  The documentation for 7.5 states that the upgrade installer
>>>>> for
>>>>> 7.5
>>>>> is compatible to run against 6.3 and higher servers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Grooms, Frederick W <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you are not able to do the new server method as Misi suggests then
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> would do the following
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Upgrade to ARS 6.3 (this will involve upgrading your license file,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> that is a simple process using the support web)
>>>>>> Upgrade to ARS 7.1
>>>>>> Upgrade to ARS 7.5 (or 7.6)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Each version has performance improvements over the previous version.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> 6.3 upgrade increases the Login info from 30 characters to 254
>>>>>> characters
>>>>>> and the 7.1 changes the licensing to not require actual keys for
>>>>>> anything
>>>>>> but the server license (the upgrade installer handles this change
>>>>>> itself).
>>>>>> With a large number of concurrent users you need to make sure you are
>>>>>> taking advantage of the RPC-Non-Blocking-IO parameter (which I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> added with v5.1.2 and does require HP patches be installed if they
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> there already).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One other item to make sure of is to check the required versions of
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> database and OS for each ARS version (the Compatibility Matrix).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:48 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Massive upgrade challenge!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Install a new server on a new database
>>>>>> 2. Compare and apply manual changes to the system forms manually as
>>>>>> desired
>>>>>> 3. Export/import def-file of your custom forms/applications/objects
>>>>>> 4. Use RRR|Chive to SYNC all your data to the new machine:
>>>>>> https://www.rrr.se/cgi/rrrchive/main
>>>>>> 5. Use RRR|DefHideExpandBox to fix your layout:
>>>>>> https://www.rrr.se/cgi/tools/main#rrrDefHideExpandBox
>>>>>> 6. Test your system and fix any problems
>>>>>> 7. Do a final data SYNC using RRR|Chive and switch over your users
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10):
>>>>>> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
>>>>>> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
>>>>>> logs.
>>>>>> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
>>>>>> http://rrr.se.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Viki_kulkarni
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:27 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Massive upgrade challenge!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Greetings to all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have recently joined ARS list and have been working on AR server
>>>>>> since
>>>>>> about 2 and a half years as a developer in BMC software.
>>>>>> Now I have an interesting challenge in front of me I need to upgrade
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> ARS
>>>>>> 5.0.1 to ARS 7.5 P003.
>>>>>> The reason being performance hit on HP UX machine due to high number
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> concurrent users.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So here is my problem I am not sure that if we upgrade to ARS 7.5
>>>>>> P008
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> will be an performance improvement, but as far as I know I am betting
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> 64-bit support of ARS 7.5 as compared to ARS 5.0.1 which is 32-bit.
>>>>>> Also
>>>>>> number of memory leaks that have been fixed along the version.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if anyone thinks that this is a good idea to go ahead with let me
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>> Also I am currently investigating on the correct and accurate steps
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> perform the upgrade. If anyone had already performed the upgrade
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> kindly share the experience as it will be a great help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to give a environment info we are on ARS 5.0.1 on HP-UX machine
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> OOTB apps installed at all. But have a completely customized
>>>>>> application
>>>>>> developed on this server which we use.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks & Regards,
>>>>>> Vikrant Kulkarni
>>>>>> Tech M
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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