So... why should I use this again instead of relying on some good
documentation of minimal customization? 

Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.
Analyst, Service Management
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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of strauss
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4

Well, if I had KNOWN that this was a requirement, I would have.  I did
not think that this was true a month ago when I upgraded ARS on the
staging server and jumped into the BPCU tar pit.  Also, if the upgraded
7.6.04 system is going to refuse to import pre-7.6.04 definitions
correctly (which I think I just proved with Kinetic Survey/Request 4.4
form definitions), then what do I do when the next version of KSR is
released in a couple of weeks and it won't import either?

Have you built 7.6.04 to where it is impossible to import a pre-7.6-04
application or definition from ANY source???  What about the 3rd party
applications like alarmpoint (xmatters, whatever) that YOU (BMC)
re-sell??  Their integration is (a) unlikely to import properly (imports
as an application - no, I haven't tried it yet, it was next after KSR),
and (b) unlikely to be updated any time soon based on their performance
to date (their java client has never been updated to install or work on
any Windows platform past 2003).

Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
Call Tracking Administration Manager
University of North Texas Computing & IT Center
http://itsm.unt.edu/

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gadgil, Abhijeet
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 8:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4

BPCU utility is deemed to be used only as part of the upgrade steps

Why do you not import before upgrading to a 7.6.04 server?
If you do this before the server upgrade then BPCU will take care of
converting such objects to custom as part of the documented upgrade
steps

Abhijeet

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4

"But if you had had to convert the base to custom you could easily open
the object in Best practice mode and use save as, the object will be
created as custom "

Is there a way that this can be done using BPCU (?). I am having trouble
getting it to run successfully. My case is - I imported form X from
7.6.3 version on to a 7.6.4 and want it to show as custom. But want to
see if this can be done without manually going through each form and
doing a save as.

If  BPCU is possible can I please get the command to run to change form
X to custom? Also what would be in the hash file (so confused).

Thanks

Atul Vohra

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gadgil, Abhijeet" [[email protected]]
Date: 03/24/2011 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4

If you are in Best Practice View in Developer studio then you cannot
convert a base (unmodified) object to a custom object with a right
context menu option 
You can only convert it into an overlay using menu option convert to
overlay 
But if you had had to convert the base to custom you could easily open
the object in Best practice mode and use save as, the object will be
created as custom 


You can always convert a custom object to a base object in dev studio
using menu option viz., convert to base 

Abhijeet  

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra 
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:33 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 

Hi, 

Is it possible to change a form in 7.6.4 form from unmodified to custom
and vice versa? If yes then how? 

Regards 
Atul 

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