David: "Once you do this, you'd really never want to run BPCU again. Any new objects that you import into the server will become custom or overlaid objects. And any upgrades of BMC products will only touch the origin (base) objects. " ---
I imported some forms from 7.6.3 system in to 7.6.4 system and they came in as Unmodified. Am I missing something? They should have come in as 'custom'? Regards Atul Vohra -----Original Message----- From: "Easter, David" [[email protected]] Date: 03/28/2011 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 BPCU is intended to assist in the conversion during an upgrade process to v7.6.04 (or later) - and thus intended to be used once in the overall upgrade process. Simply put the process is (and I'm way oversimplifying this - follow the real documentation for all the actual steps): 1. Take a pre-7.6.04 system and load everything you wish to be present once the upgrade is complete. 2. Run BPCU to determine if there are any fields or objects that are "illegal" and must be corrected prior to the upgrade. 3. Correct the illegal fields (or determine if they are in fact 'legal' and note those to be bypassed by BPCU) 4. Upgrade to AR System 7.6.04 5. Run BPCU to convert the 7.0.03p9 or later applications to overlays and custom objects 6. Reload the original BMC applications so that your origin (base) objects are now BMC OOTB. 7. Upgrade your applications Once you do this, you'd really never want to run BPCU again. Any new objects that you import into the server will become custom or overlaid objects. And any upgrades of BMC products will only touch the origin (base) objects. -David J. Easter Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform BMC Software, Inc. The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 06:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 "Why do you not import before upgrading to a 7.6.04 server? " - Forms were not available to us at migration. Are we saying BPCU can not be used after migrating to 7.6.4 (did not see that mentioned anywhere). Atul Vohra -----Original Message----- From: "Gadgil, Abhijeet" [[email protected]] Date: 03/28/2011 09:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 BPCU utility is deemed to be used only as part of the upgrade steps Why do you not import before upgrading to a 7.6.04 server? If you do this before the server upgrade then BPCU will take care of converting such objects to custom as part of the documented upgrade steps Abhijeet The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 5:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 "But if you had had to convert the base to custom you could easily open the object in Best practice mode and use save as, the object will be created as custom " Is there a way that this can be done using BPCU (?). I am having trouble getting it to run successfully. My case is - I imported form X from 7.6.3 version on to a 7.6.4 and want it to show as custom. But want to see if this can be done without manually going through each form and doing a save as. If BPCU is possible can I please get the command to run to change form X to custom? Also what would be in the hash file (so confused). Thanks Atul Vohra -----Original Message----- From: "Gadgil, Abhijeet" [[email protected]] Date: 03/24/2011 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 If you are in Best Practice View in Developer studio then you cannot convert a base (unmodified) object to a custom object with a right context menu option You can only convert it into an overlay using menu option convert to overlay But if you had had to convert the base to custom you could easily open the object in Best practice mode and use save as, the object will be created as custom You can always convert a custom object to a base object in dev studio using menu option viz., convert to base Abhijeet The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Atul Vohra Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Overlay and custom in 7.6.4 Hi, Is it possible to change a form in 7.6.4 form from unmodified to custom and vice versa? If yes then how? 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