Yes but the traffic itself, is outgoing from the Mid-Tier so connection / 
network / port validations are all done as if the Mid-Tier was doing all the 
work.. Technically the network engineer does not even need to know about the AR 
Server or the Web Service plugin.. Rick was asking about a published web 
service.. So it’s a external system consuming the Remedy web service case..

When Remedy consumes, you are right, it’s the filter that calls the web service 
which connects to the plugin. You are right in that when Remedy consumes, the 
Mid-tier is not touched at all.. All the consumption logs are found in the 
arjavaplugin logs that are written after the plugin processes the call.. 
Nothing is seen on the mid-tier logs..

Sorry I wasn’t clear about what system is the consumer earlier..

To answer Jason I assumed (I think correctly) Rick meant outgoing application 
data queried from Remedy..

Joe

From: Jason Miller 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:10 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: Web service source

** LJ, I was about to reply with the same thing but then I realized that I was 
probably reading this with the flow reversed.  Before I hit send I took a look 
at the emails again and deleted the draft.  I think "outgoing" can be looked at 
two different ways and when I reversed my train of thought nothing false had 
been said. 

So does "outgoing" mean data going out from Remedy?  Or does "outgoing" mean 
Remedy is going out to get data.  Rick gave all the necessary details I think 
people (like you and me) just read them differently :)


Jason


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  Joe,
  Sorry, but I think you are wrong here....

  When Remedy consumes a web service, that is done through the plugin

  When someone else consumes a Remedy Web Service, that is done through Mid-Tier

  Remedy can consume external services without Mid-Tier being in 
existence...and vis versa, Remedy can publish web services without the plugin 
being loaded.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:53 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Web service source


  **

  The outgoing traffic you are correct in saying that it goes from the 
Mid-Tier.. the external client communicates with the Mid-Tier when 
communication comes in as a web service, and the Mid-tier communicates to the 
AR Server through the Web Server Plugin..

  I think the process of the actual generation of the WSDL however happens on 
the AR Server. At least that is my understanding. When you attempt to create a 
WSDL, using the Web Service creation object from the Dev Studio or the Remedy 
Admin Tool, the plugin creates the WSDL, and using the default web server path, 
connects to the web server, and saves it on the web server..

  I may be wrong, but that’s my understanding, so if I am wrong, please someone 
correct me..

  Joe


  From: Rick Cook <mailto:[email protected]>

  Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:08 PM
  Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Web service source

  **

  We are in the process of setting up a connection between our Remedy system 
and an external system.  As part of our network/port validation, we need to 
know whether the outgoing traffic for a published web service (one that is 
consumed by the external system) is taken from the mid-tier server or the AR 
server.

  I contend that it is the mid-tier server, because that is where the WSDL is 
generated.  My boss disagrees.  Can you settle this for us?  I've looked in the 
docs, but didn't really see anything.

  Rick Cook
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