Actually you are right about the plugin not being involved at the time of a
WSDL creation or modification - nothing gets written to the arjavaplugin log
during this time and only at the time when a call is made that uses that
filter.. I should have thought of that..
That was the thing that I wasn't sure of but didn't think of the fact
nothing gets written to those logs..
I had never checked the arjavaplugin log for entries when a external call
came in, so that’s good to know it does not go through the plugin.. I
thought it did..
Thanks for the clarifications..
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:19 PM Newsgroups:
public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Web service source
I think Joe's understanding regarding the plugin's role in the process is
confused. He states
'Mid-Tier when communication comes in as a web service, and the Mid-tier
communicates to the AR Server through the Web Server Plugin'
He is correct right up to the point where he states 'through the Web Server
Plugin'....if you take that entire part off, the statement is correct....the
plugin has NOTHING to do with an external system communicating with a Remedy
provided WSDL. Then again where he states
'...Dev Studio or the Remedy Admin Tool, the plugin creates the WSDL'
The plugin is NOT involved in the creation...that's all the Remedy server.
And then one minor correction
'...and saves it on the web server'
The exposed WSDL is stored by the Remedy server in the DB, and the only role
the Mid-Tier holds in this is that the Remedy server doesn't server up the
WSDL (that's done by Mid-Tier)...but the WSDL is only cached by the
Mid-Tier, not truly 'stored' there....
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Web service source
** LJ, I was about to reply with the same thing but then I realized that I
was probably reading this with the flow reversed. Before I hit send I took
a look at the emails again and deleted the draft. I think "outgoing" can be
looked at two different ways and when I reversed my train of thought nothing
false had been said.
So does "outgoing" mean data going out from Remedy? Or does "outgoing" mean
Remedy is going out to get data. Rick gave all the necessary details I
think people (like you and me) just read them differently :)
Jason
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC
<[email protected]> wrote:
Joe,
Sorry, but I think you are wrong here....
When Remedy consumes a web service, that is done through the plugin
When someone else consumes a Remedy Web Service, that is done through
Mid-Tier
Remedy can consume external services without Mid-Tier being in
existence...and vis versa, Remedy can publish web services without the
plugin being loaded.
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Web service source
**
The outgoing traffic you are correct in saying that it goes from the
Mid-Tier.. the external client communicates with the Mid-Tier when
communication comes in as a web service, and the Mid-tier communicates to
the AR Server through the Web Server Plugin..
I think the process of the actual generation of the WSDL however happens on
the AR Server. At least that is my understanding. When you attempt to create
a WSDL, using the Web Service creation object from the Dev Studio or the
Remedy Admin Tool, the plugin creates the WSDL, and using the default web
server path, connects to the web server, and saves it on the web server..
I may be wrong, but that's my understanding, so if I am wrong, please
someone correct me..
Joe
From: Rick Cook <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:08 PM
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: [email protected]
Subject: Web service source
**
We are in the process of setting up a connection between our Remedy system
and an external system. As part of our network/port validation, we need to
know whether the outgoing traffic for a published web service (one that is
consumed by the external system) is taken from the mid-tier server or the AR
server.
I contend that it is the mid-tier server, because that is where the WSDL is
generated. My boss disagrees. Can you settle this for us? I've looked in
the docs, but didn't really see anything.
Rick Cook
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