I think Joe's understanding regarding the plugin's role in the process is 
confused.  He states

'Mid-Tier when communication comes in as a web service, and the Mid-tier 
communicates to the AR Server through the Web Server Plugin'

He is correct right up to the point where he states 'through the Web Server 
Plugin'....if you take that entire part off, the statement is correct....the 
plugin has NOTHING to do with an external system communicating with a Remedy 
provided WSDL.  Then again where he states

'...Dev Studio or the Remedy Admin Tool, the plugin creates the WSDL'

The plugin is NOT involved in the creation...that's all the Remedy server.

And then one minor correction

'...and saves it on the web server'

The exposed WSDL is stored by the Remedy server in the DB, and the only role 
the Mid-Tier holds in this is that the Remedy server doesn't server up the WSDL 
(that's done by Mid-Tier)...but the WSDL is only cached by the Mid-Tier, not 
truly 'stored' there....

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 11:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Web service source

** LJ, I was about to reply with the same thing but then I realized that I was 
probably reading this with the flow reversed.  Before I hit send I took a look 
at the emails again and deleted the draft.  I think "outgoing" can be looked at 
two different ways and when I reversed my train of thought nothing false had 
been said.

So does "outgoing" mean data going out from Remedy?  Or does "outgoing" mean 
Remedy is going out to get data.  Rick gave all the necessary details I think 
people (like you and me) just read them differently :)


Jason


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC 
<[email protected]> wrote:


        Joe,
        Sorry, but I think you are wrong here....
        
        When Remedy consumes a web service, that is done through the plugin
        
        When someone else consumes a Remedy Web Service, that is done through 
Mid-Tier
        
        Remedy can consume external services without Mid-Tier being in 
existence...and vis versa, Remedy can publish web services without the plugin 
being loaded.
        

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
        Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:53 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Web service source
        
        
        **
        
        The outgoing traffic you are correct in saying that it goes from the 
Mid-Tier.. the external client communicates with the Mid-Tier when 
communication comes in as a web service, and the Mid-tier communicates to the 
AR Server through the Web Server Plugin..
        
        I think the process of the actual generation of the WSDL however 
happens on the AR Server. At least that is my understanding. When you attempt 
to create a WSDL, using the Web Service creation object from the Dev Studio or 
the Remedy Admin Tool, the plugin creates the WSDL, and using the default web 
server path, connects to the web server, and saves it on the web server..
        
        I may be wrong, but that's my understanding, so if I am wrong, please 
someone correct me..
        
        Joe
        
        
        From: Rick Cook <mailto:[email protected]>
        
        Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 3:08 PM
        Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Web service source
        
        **
        
        We are in the process of setting up a connection between our Remedy 
system and an external system.  As part of our network/port validation, we need 
to know whether the outgoing traffic for a published web service (one that is 
consumed by the external system) is taken from the mid-tier server or the AR 
server.
        
        I contend that it is the mid-tier server, because that is where the 
WSDL is generated.  My boss disagrees.  Can you settle this for us?  I've 
looked in the docs, but didn't really see anything.
        
        Rick Cook
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