My company has also recently taken a look at Service Now.  I can also confirm 
hearing some deliberately false information being provided, but that's likely 
typical for any sales presentation.  That being said, I do have a cautiously 
positive view of their product.  The techie part of my personality would like 
to make the switch just to learn something completely new and exciting, but in 
terms of doing what's best for my organization I don't think it's fully matured 
enough yet to replace Remedy, plus not all companies are willing to have their 
private data out on "the cloud" yet.  I've also come to the opinion that us 
Remedy folks are maybe more opposed to some of the people involved with 
ServiceNow and their marketing techniques than the anything else.  Either way, 
I plan to keep my eye on them and if my management told me tomorrow that they 
signed me up for classes and that we'd be migrating to that product, I would 
treat it as an opportunity not treat it as the end of the world.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer

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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: OT: ServiceNow

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That is I was looking at SNOW in terms of knowing what's good and what is bad. 
No product is the best at everything.
I am certainly more open minded about the products than most folks I met at the 
SNOW conference were.

To them [SNOW conference attendees, the ServiceNow employees and others] BMC 
Remedy is the enemy and it can do no right. There were many expressing 
blatantly false views, I kept my opinions mostly to myself.

Well, I did have to correct former BMC employees who were saying Fred Luddy had 
something to do with creating Remedy. A view I heard enough times to consider 
it to be deliberate.

Yes, the marketing is a direct steal from what Remedy Corp. said in the 1990s, 
and there is a tiny bit of truth to some of what they say. Mostly though, if 
the developer studio were sped up to the speed of the old Admin tool, It could 
easily be shown you can create robust custom apps faster and easier with Remedy 
than with ServiceNow. Real apps that is, with a real data model. They however, 
can show creating new fields and apps in minutes due to the simplicity of the 
system, the data model, what gets displayed and the simplistic development tool 
that does not show that all real development is done by working on java scripts.

That being said, if you want quick and simple display of quick and simple data 
in a quick and simple data model, it arguably can. Then again, so can dozens of 
other light weight applications. RemedyForce would certainly seem the better 
direction for those that want a truly cloud built light weight system.

Note: These opinions are mine. No one elses, not my employer, and possibly not 
mine next week if I get evidence that I am mistaken about any of the above.

Daniel
p.s. and they of course have nothing like the ARSlist :)

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
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Sent: November 22, 2013 10:33 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT: ServiceNow

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LJ,

There are a few folks that are looking at SNOW.  In some cases, one needs to 
look at the competition to be able to say what's good and what's bad and not 
have it be an opinion.  Dan Bloom is one.

Dave

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
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Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:27 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OT: ServiceNow

**
I think what Shawn was saying was your request may have been something like 
walking into a Chevy dealership and asking the sales people where the closest 
Ford dealership is.....

Honestly though...not many people on this list are likely to have a bunch of 
information on SNOW...you may want to try searching the internet via Google to 
try to find something....they probably have a forum or something similar that 
you can find.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:21 AM, stephen leith 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Errr thanks?

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Nov 2013, at 15:11, "Pierson, Shawn" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Have you checked this out?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Leith
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:06 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: ServiceNow
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Does anybody know of a ServiceNow equivalent of the ARS list?
>
> Stephen Leith
>
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