All,
I posted something on BMC Customer Connect, and I have already
heard from BMC. I will keep you posted, Doug
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: ENGAGE
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Amen on the cloud! Does anyone STILL need to be told what it is? By now,
either people have decided to do something on/with it, or they've decided not
to jump on that fad. It's been what - 8 years now?
And if you remember the BMC event right after they bought Remedy, this was
pretty much how it was. A bunch of BMC reps standing around like Maytag
repairmen to talk to customers who didn't come, while the too-few Remedy
resources were in high demand. Remedy customers are just more passionate about
the product line than BMC legacy customers are. BMC legacy apps are basically
utilities for mainframes. I've worked a little in that space, and it's not
about excitement and new things - it's about keeping things running smoothly.
No one is changing the face of IT with how they deploy Patrol. That's not to
denigrate it (or the other BMC apps) as a product, just that it's not really
the forward-looking, customer-facing ITIL type of stuff that Remedy/ITSM/Atrium
is.
THAT's the stuff we need to learn about how to deliver better to our customers
and users. Do more of THAT, and we'll beat a path to the door.
Rick
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Scott Philben
<sphil...@mac.com<mailto:sphil...@mac.com>> wrote:
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I'm not sure I could get to 5-6. 3-4 maybe. What would I do with the rest of my
time?
When I heard this was happening, I was excited. BMC was running it! The real
insiders! There would be more discussions on the other BMC tools! All the good
stuff all in one place! Adventure and excitement!
Now that I have seen the agenda, it's all about meh... Where are the technical
discussions for us who don't need hand holding and the "New Remedy User
Experience?" Where are the "ways to use Remedy that you never thought of?" How
about Misi and seeing how he integrates things with Remedy? Where are the
little customers and big customers explaining how they do things with Remedy?
This sounds like a lot of Marketing types there to sell me stuff.
And stop pushing The Cloud!
-scott
On Jul 29, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Rick Cook
<remedyr...@gmail.com<mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Looks like they updated the session times to more reasonable values. Some of
that may be time zone adjustment, but at least evenings now look free for
networking and other activities.
I know that not everyone is ready for the advanced stuff, and that we need
sessions at all levels. But I see maybe 5-6 breakouts I would definitely
attend. The rest are kinda meh...
Rick
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II
<warrenbaltim...@gmail.com<mailto:warrenbaltim...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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err...that would be San Jose.... heh...still haven't had my full load of
coffee.....
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II
<warrenbaltim...@gmail.com<mailto:warrenbaltim...@gmail.com>> wrote:
First off, as to Claire's earlier comment, I am truly flattered.....
I'm not sure why anyone would have thought this to be any different then it has
ALWAYS been when BMC ran this thing. I still remember giving an ear full to
some poor staffer in San Diego back in 2006 (I think) about how upset I was
that it was nothing more then one long marketing tool for the ITSM suite....
At the time, all I did was development, and it was pretty darn evident that BMC
no longer wished to sell the ARSystem as a development platform.
I've not been able to get to many of these since I left the University of
Washington (it is so much harder to convince a profit motivated manager of
these things then a University manager!), and I had hoped to go to this, but
now I'm not so sure.... Maybe I'm just better off finding a good class
somewhere....
BMC, you really need to start listening to this group. They are some of your
Remedy products biggest fans. We can can be a bit of handful sometimes, but
we're worth it! Stop treating this as a way to just sell your products. We've
already bought into that. Instead, think about how YOU can help US to better
leverage these products. Do a better job in running this event. Perhaps give
it to the education and engineering/R&D departments, and leave the sales staff
at home!
*sigh*
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tami Palacky
<tpala...@gmail.com<mailto:tpala...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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too funny Jason!!!
seems they are going back to how BMC used to run the conference. too bad there
is no more WWRUG. i guess the guys got burned out. :(
On Monday, July 28, 2014 7:57:42 PM UTC-4, Jason Miller wrote:
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By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE. Once
we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have an impact.
Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an impact on the
overlay.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury
<tauf...@gmail.com<mailto:tauf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can
set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo
<lm...@me.com<mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
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Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...
Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?
So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and
whatever?
We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could
be a problem with BMC rules though).
On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury
<tauf...@gmail.com<mailto:tauf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached
out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking
(by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury
<tauf...@gmail.com<mailto:tauf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker
pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing
Consultant
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo
<lm...@me.com<mailto:lm...@me.com>> wrote:
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The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx
But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or
you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend
the breakouts (and miss the candy)?
On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook
<remed...@gmail.com<mailto:remed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or
the other evening activities go? Will they even have them?
Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller"
<jason....@gmail.com<mailto:jason....@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Not impressed. My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World. We
haven't missed you all these years. Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a
day or two?.?.?.
Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations by
customers.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire
<claire....@memorialhermann.org<mailto:claire....@memorialhermann.org>> wrote:
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Just shaking my head…
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: ENGAGE
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It seems the list is on now:
http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda
On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire"
<claire....@memorialhermann.org<mailto:claire....@memorialhermann.org>> wrote:
You are certainly trusting Terry!
I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate. I can see
it now…
ME: Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for
almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.
There is an early bird discount!!!
DIR: Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions
are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
ME: Big Sigh…
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On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
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Subject:Re: ENGAGE
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Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75!
Hehe
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma
<tboo...@objectpath.com<mailto:tboo...@objectpath.com>> wrote:
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I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st. So, if the agenda is out
today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
However, I had to make a call last week, so I registered and paid for the
conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date
with a $75.00 "admin" fee. Well, we'll see about that. :-)
Terry
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Subject:Re: ENGAGE
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I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we
have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that
expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
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Subject:Re: ENGAGE
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They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their
conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to make our own
reservations.
If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get
approval. I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it
became WWRUG!
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Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
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Subject:Re: ENGAGE
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I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving
people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel
arrangements than BMC. Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on
this conference.
Jason
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan
<david_...@brown.edu<mailto:david_...@brown.edu>> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of
marketing.
Is this even worth going to?
Dave
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