I'm not really known on arslist, but I just received an ack email saying that 
my breakout was accepted.
#2Cents


On 04 Aug, 2014,at 05:07 PM, Lynn Larsen <[email protected]> wrote:

So LJ is going… aside from the Unisys folks that we know will be there, who 
else WILL be attending from our string of conversation here??

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 9:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: ENGAGE

**

Apparently...the process took a bit longer than anticipated....one of my two 
topics got accepted, so it appears I WILL be attending Engage this year :)

It appears that the content of sessions has shifted a bit in the last week.  I 
reported 120 at the end of last Monday.  As of this exact moment, there are 
only 102 active sessions, 41 are Remedy related, 11 by non BMCers, and 4 are 
technical.

So, the numbers are shifting a bit....but my topic isn't in that list yet, but 
it titled 'Remedy Java API – Basic Components' where I plan on discussing how 
the API is structured, how the objects relate to what you see in Remedy Dev 
Studio as well as Mid-Tier, and how to manipulate your Remedy system through 
the API to get the best out of it. :)...

I'm hopeful at this point that Engage is morphing into something a bit more 
acceptable to the many technical resources we have here on the list.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, LJ LongWing <[email protected]> wrote:

I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted list 
coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.

Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are 
'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of those 
only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as 
'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1 CMDB).  
Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development platform, but as a 
platform to sell their OOTB tools....part of me is disappointed, but not 
surprised.

Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to Remedy, 
not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected for 
presentation....

and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission fees, 
I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this 
year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so 
everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who knows.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

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By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.  Once 
we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have an impact. 
 Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an impact on the 
overlay.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote:

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Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> wrote:

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Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel 
like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If 
it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the 
place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and 
whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could 
be a problem with BMC rules though).


On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote:

    **

    I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. 
Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love 
networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.

    On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <[email protected]> wrote:

        In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed 
speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical 
Marketing Consultant

        On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <[email protected]> wrote:

            **

            The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
            
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

            But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on 
tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), 
or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?


            On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

                **

                And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with 
Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?

                Rick

                On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                **

                Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing 
World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it 
soak in for a day or two?.?.?.

                Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few 
presentations by customers.

                On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                **

                Just shaking my head…

                From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
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                Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM


                To: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: ENGAGE

                **

                It seems the list is on now:
                http://bmc.g2planet.com/bmcengage2014/event_agenda

                On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    You are certainly trusting Terry!

                    I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early 
bird rate.   I can see it now…

                    ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for 
me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the 
content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

                    DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on 
what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.

                    ME:  Big Sigh…

                    From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
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                    Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
                    To: [email protected]
                    Subject: Re: ENGAGE

                    **

                    Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say 
goodbye to that $75! Hehe

                    Sent from my iPhone


                    On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        **

                        I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the 
agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".

                        However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and 
paid for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain 
date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)

                        Terry

                        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
                        Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Re: ENGAGE

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                        I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval 
for a conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be 
“early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, 
in my opinion.

                        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
                        Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Re: ENGAGE

                        **

They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk. We are adults. We should be able to make our own reservations.
                        If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there 
is no way I can get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way 
it was before it became WWRUG!

                        From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
                        Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Re: ENGAGE

                        **

                        I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at 
communicating and giving people the information they need to decide, get 
approvals and make travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't 
completely miss the mark on this conference.

                        Jason

                        On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        I still haven't seen much of what is being presented 
other that lots of marketing.

                        Is this even worth going to?


                        Dave

                        
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