all this wasted time and energy for $25, take it off list!

Jed Stafford wrote:
Seems silly to air your issues here, but since you did. The real facts as stated before are you asked for a refund approx. 9 months after you opened an account. PayPals' policy does not allow for a refund after this period even though we tried to perform it for you to be nice. We opened a ticket with PayPal to see if we could make this happen for you and told you as such and you saw that as some sort of excuse. We repeatedly asked you to provide an address to send a refund check and you did not want to provide one for whatever reason, instead replying with insults on how that equated to further stall tactics. You only provided an address for you 'after' you filed a formal complaint with the ATG, which one negated any favors we wanted do for you, although I still approved it, and two does require us to take a different set of actions to get you a check which we still had planned to do. You continue to misstate the facts and have turned this in to a bigger issue than it needed to be, all you needed to do was provide a simple address vs the legal item it has become.


On May 8, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Tom Lynn wrote:

John,
I was required to deposit $25, the majority of which remains unused, and un-refunded, despite statements from Jed that he would refund my remaining balance.

After trying to blame paypal for delaying my payment (twice) and then promising to send a check directly to my home I still have nothing.

I complained to the Washington State Attorney General's Consumer Affairs Office, which Jed used as a further excuse to not refund my money. He claimed that now that I'd complained, he would have to work solely through the ATG (not true).

I'm told their efforts at contacting Sellvoip and Jed were ignored. While they can't take action on my behalf personally, they will take action on behalf of the State of Washington if they receive a pattern of complaints that lead them to believe a business is systematically abusing consumers.

If you feel that Sellvoip has done this, I'd encourage you to contact the ATG. This is their website. If enough people complain, the law may take notice.

http://www.atg.wa.gov/FileAComplaint.aspx



On 5/8/07, *John Scully* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    If it does not violate any NDAs, may I ask what services were
    being purchased from this vendor, and how much they required in
    deposit?  I have been amazed at the number of vendors requiring
    large deposits, then folding and pretending to still be live.  I
    think this is the third similar thread over the last six months.
JOhn Scully
        ----- Original Message -----
        *From:* Mark Holm <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        *To:* Jed Stafford <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
        Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Cc:* helpdesk <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        *Sent:* Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:19 AM
        *Subject:* RE: [asterisk-biz] Anybody know how to get a
        response from SellVoIP.net?

        Jed,
Glad to see you are still amongst the living. I don't
        generally use the Lite Portal as there is still some
        functionality in the Old one that I can't get to in the Lite
        one. I have been in and out of it for the last 4 weeks though
        and this is the first time I have seen those names there.
        That said, as stated in my original message and in the new
        ticket I placed this afternoon (still no response there) I
        did try and convert over to using the new names as found in
        the FAQ (which also match up with the portal). All 4 of those
        names are also timing out just like the static IPs. I'm not
        even getting a response back from your systems. These are
        older accounts attempting to register a  TrixBox PBX, and
        setup using your TrixBox plug-in. They worked up until you
        moved everything and now they don't.
The account I am fighting first is: 8616010000000003 against
        static IP address (mine) 69.30.46.122 <http://69.30.46.122>.
Even a hint at the problem would be great. This whole fiasco
        has completely destroyed our credibility about how good VoIP
        is, since we can't even get our own office numbers worked out.
markh P.S. Any chance that your own published number will start
        working any time soon so I could have a direct call with support?

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        *From:* Jed Stafford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
        *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2007 5:28 PM
        *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
        *Cc:* helpdesk
        *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] Anybody know how to get a
        response from SellVoIP.net?

        The DNS entries are provided on the main page of the portal
        login.

        -Jed


        On May 7, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Mark Holm wrote:

        I have been trying to get help on this from Jed or anybody
        Since April 4 when all my accounts went down. I followed all
        the instructions that Jed sent out for requesting the DID
        move, but NEVER received a message stating the new server
        names that should be used for registering with the new
        servers. I just noticed this afternoon that the FAQ section
        on their web site has a new list of names on it now that
        they say to use to check access speed with. Are those the
        names we should also be registering with? I tried plugging
        them into my setup, but am still not getting registration.

        Mean while all of my inbound numbers continue to give the
        message "You have reached a non-working number" when called.
        I have tried calling them, but their original number gave
        the same non-working number message also, and now it says
        you have to use area code 253 instead of 206, but that
        number also comes back with non-working number messages as
        well. How are you supposed to contact a company that is
        supposedly "still in business", but who's main published
        line doesn't work and doesn't respond to trouble tickets?

        I currently have 7 outstanding tickets in their system, 4
        marked CRITICAL that range from requests for help to please
        for assistance, and have yet to receive ANY response from
        ANYBODY at SellVoIP. I even went so far as to report them to
        the Oregon PUC, but they can't reach them either…

        Jed,

        If you are still lurking on this listserver, can you PLEASE
        let us (me specifically) know:

        1) How to contact you or your support team in a manner that
        will get an answer?
        2) How to get a copy of the mystery email stating that
        Static IP addresses were changing to DNS names and what they
        should be changed to? Better yet, what should the correct
        SIP settings for a server with a static address?

        3) Baring getting it working again, What is needed to
        facilitate a number port from your system and get a refund
        of the moneys sitting in my accounts on your system.

        Hopefully you can sense my frustration on this. We've been
        with you for almost 2 years and were a supporter until now.
        Help me be a supporter again!?!

                markh

        ================================================
        Mark A. Holm
InfoArch, Inc. 7456 SW Baseline, PMB#123. Office: (503) 943-3202
        Hillsboro, OR 97123                        Fax:    (503)
        591-8584
_http://www.infoarch.com _ <http://www.infoarch.com> < _mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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