Patrick, That's technically not true. I've never seen an instance of this in production, but I have used Adtran boxes that supported partial T1's in which some of the channels were voice and some were data. (though I only ever used the entire T1 for voice.)
Whether the telco would be able to do this is a completely different story I imagine. Thanks, Johannes On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Patrick Song <[email protected]> wrote: > Typically, for any leased line scenario (DSL, T1, and Fiber), Bell provides > the circuit only. Bell will deliver one side of the circuit to customer > premises and the other side to the CO. the third party ISPs will take the > circuit from CO and connect it to their network equipment. So, there is no > Bell equipment involved. if any bell equipment is involved for the leased > line, the price will go up for the third party ISPs as each physical > interface on bell equipment costs money for them to provision and maintain. > > by the way, you cannot have either internet or voice on the same equipment. > for voice, the circuit goes to DMS switch. for internet, the circuit goes > to > internet access router such as cisco 7206 > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Jim Van Meggelen <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > The T1 probably needs to be re-terminated and will certainly need to be > > re-programmed at the CO. > > > > So they've got some work to do to make this happen, but they don't have > to > > roll a truck to your premises. > > > > Actually, they probably will roll a truck in order to verify the circuit > is > > good, and re-label the PairGain (smartjack), but they won't have to > install > > any hardware. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > On 2/23/2010 4:27 PM, Bruce N wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the input guys. > >> I guess that is the case as they have run out of pairs. But with a T1 in > >> place shouldn't the third party internet provider be able to easily > change > >> the signaling to PRI without even involving Bell Canada? do you think > there > >> is some company bureaucracy that plays here or is it that Bell has to > >> actually do something on their end as well to change this T1 line into a > >> PRI. > >> Change from:Site - Cisco Router + T1 interface> Bell providing lines - > >> third company T1 interface providing internet > >> To:Site - Asterisk+PRI card> Bell PRI equipment> third company PRI > >> equipment > >> I am wondering if Bell is even need to put PRI equpiment in between or > if > >> they their loop equipment to third company is able to connect either of > >> internet or PRI over the same equipment which makes more sense to me as > Bell > >> is only a connect point and it's only a pair of cables and nothing else. > >> Thanks again > >> > >> > >> > >>> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:02:16 -0500 > >>> From: [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> CC: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] T1 conversion to PRI - To Telco Gurus > >>> > >>> Bruce, they may be telling you this because they have ran out of pairs > >>> to the target unit and the exsisting pairs are leased by a 3rd party. > >>> > >>> > >>> Bruce N wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi Guys, > >>>> I am wondering if any of you guys have experience with converting a T1 > >>>> to a PRI. I have a situation where Bell says there is no facility to > install > >>>> a PRI circuit but there are two T1 circuits already installed on site. > I can > >>>> disconnect both or one in favor of PRI. The T1s are provided by yet > another > >>>> company but of course they are leasing Bell lines. > >>>> They are just complicating and delaying the whole process even with my > >>>> option of converting T1 to PRI. > >>>> Any thoughts? it will help me understand the feasibility better and > >>>> maybe train those lazy order managers on it. > >>>> Thanks,Bruce > >>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> Introducing Windows® phone. > >>>> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9708122 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > > > -- > > Jim Van Meggelen > > [email protected] > > http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/2177 > > > > "A child is the ultimate startup, and I have three. > > This makes me rich." > > Guy Kawasaki > > -- > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > -- > Thank you > > Patrick Song > Thinking globally, Networking locally > CCVP, CCNP, M.Eng in Telecommunications > Cell:1-647-868-2950 >
