Wouldn't this sorry FXO state of affairs open the door for a unique service from the local TELCO. The TELCO could offer a PSTN/DSL product that offered a pair of PSTN DID's and those same DID's connected via SIP via private IP addresses on the DSL side.
The TELCO could invest in very good quality FXO/SIP hardware, the lifeline PSTN is still available, and the private DSL/SIP would connect to the LAN side of your network. A cool product if they could get it through the government regulators at a reasonable price. Just a thought... Lonnie On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Michael Graves wrote: > My experience trying FXOs goes back some time, so there are now > product > available that I have not tried. Here's what I tried: > > - Clone of Digium single port FXO PCI card > - Real Digium single port FXO PCI card (tried 3) > - Digium TDM-400 (configured for 2 x FXO) > - Sipura SPA-3000 (was part of the beta group) > - FXO on Zultys 4x5 SIP phone > > None were satisfactory. The Sangoma card was announced but not yet > delivering when I gave up and went a wholly IP based route. > > I polled the Asterisk Users mailing list asking about many of the > small > FXO adapters that are around, but noone responded in a positive way. > Many were not yet SIP capable and had only shaky firmware moving in > that direction. > > The Zultys phone showed promise as the port was built right into the > phone, along with a router with QoS. However, their support policies > and processes were terrible. In the beta software that was aware of > the > FXO it was only available as a "lifeline" to be used when IP > connectivity was lost. Incomming calls on that line could not be > forwarded to the server for VM, etc. > > Later software was supposed to have overcome this but neither the > company nor the reseller could tell how to set it up. The company said > that all support was provided by resellers. The resellers simply > didn't > have the information. > > Michael > > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:03:11 -0800, canuck15 wrote: > >> Care to list the FXO's you tried? >> >> There is a lot of junk out there. >> >> I can recommend the recently introduced Sangoma A200D. The new >> Rhino card >> looks promising as well. Have not found anything else that is worthy >> excluding T1 cards to channel banks which is not a very pretty >> solution and >> impractical for small numbers of FXO's. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Graves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:11 PM >> To: Discussion of AstLinux - Asterisk on Compact Flash; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Need FXO suggestions >> >> Been here, done this, maybe not with the device specifically...but >> after 2 >> years of trying & fighting with FXO interfaces/adatpers from >> various sources >> I just gave up. >> >> As a short term solution I added call forwarding to all my lines >> (only 3) >> then forwarded them to DIDs issued by ITSPs like Nufone, >> Clearpath, etc. >> >> After about six months of this it was working well enough that I >> ported my >> numbers to Nuvio, through their reseller CarolinaNet. This I've >> had in place >> for just over six months. It's working great. The only time it >> hasn'worked >> was when I blew an upgrade on my server or had trouble getting >> G729 working. >> >> Small FXOs are just not worth the trouble....IMHO....of course YMMV. >> >> Michael >> >> --Original Message Text--- >> From: Gary G. Hendershot >> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:50:09 -0500 >> >> I saw this one and felt the same way ... say what you want about >> GrandStream's phones, they are cheap, easy to setup and pretty >> much just >> work ... agree that sound quality is not as good as on better >> quality phones >> and they kind of feel cheap ... but I cannot say that I did not >> get my >> money's worth when I bought their products ... >> >> I am sorely tempted to give this gizmo a try ... at $250 it is >> certainly >> below the threshold of pain ... but I hesitate to try it on my >> main office >> production machine ... if I was thinking of using it on one of my lab >> monkeys it would be an interesting toy to play with ... but I >> think for >> production, I will look for something that is known to be of high >> quality >> .. >> >> but if anyone takes the gamble and the gizmo works, PLEASE let me >> know ... >> if I were to hear back from a couple folks that this piece worked >> well, had >> decent sound quality and was reasonably easy to setup, I would >> jump on it in >> a heart beat at this price point ... >> >> G.Hendershot >> >> >> >> From: Lonnie Abelbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:11 PM >> To: Discussion of AstLinux - Asterisk on Compact Flash >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Need FXO suggestions >> >> >> Gary, >> >> I ran across a new FXO product from Grandstream... >> >> >> Grandstream GXW-4104 Analog FXO IP Gateway - 4 Port: >> http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-056-4104.htm >> >> >> I know, I know, it's Grandstream... but has anyone gambled $250 to >> try this >> box? >> >> >> It would be an awesome solution if the voice quality was good. >> >> >> Lonnie >> >> On Nov 20, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Gary G. Hendershot wrote: >> >> >> >> I need to get some feedback from you folks on what to use for an FXO >> solution ... >> >> >> at my main office, I need to feed a total of four (4) phone lines >> into my >> Astlinux server ... I am currently using a Digium 4 port card but am >> becoming quite frustrated with issues related to echo and choppy >> sound ... I >> have managed to reduce the problems with sound quality >> substantially by >> installing fresh cable from the phone closet to the location of >> the Astlinux >> machine but it is still at an unacceptable level ... >> >> >> I have heard very good things about Sangoma but understand that >> support for >> these cards is not currently in Astlinux ... and while the cards >> are not >> horribly expensive, they are costly enough that I hesitate to >> spend that >> money without some assurance that support for them will be >> ongoing ... >> >> >> I have also heard pretty good reports about the 4 port analog >> Rhino card ... >> these are also a bit pricey to buy without knowing for sure that >> it would >> save the whales and feed the starving ... but it seems that the >> card is >> readily supported in Astlinux ... >> >> >> Some time ago I played around with a couple FXO gateway >> gadgets ... one of >> them, the Mediatrix 1204 seemed to work quite well but that was >> back in the >> pre-1.0 days of Asterisk so I am not sure if this might still be a >> good >> option ... and if I recall, the only way I could afford to get my >> hands on >> one was because I chanced into a bargain on a good used one ... >> darn thing >> was very expensive if purchased new ... >> >> >> Bottom line is, I would like to hear from others who have tried a >> couple FXO >> solutions what their experiences have been with the options they >> tried ... I >> need to make a decision on this one in the next few days ... I am >> also >> interested in hearing arguments about the pros/cons of using an >> external >> gateway instead of a PCI card ... >> >> >> your opinions are valued ... >> >> >> G.Hendershot >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Astlinux-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.kriscompanies.com/mailman/listinfo/astlinux-users >> >> >> Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com >> Pixel Power Inc. 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