Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> Wouldn't this sorry FXO state of affairs open the door for a unique  
> service from the local TELCO.  The TELCO could offer a PSTN/DSL  
> product that offered a pair of PSTN DID's and those same DID's  
> connected via SIP via private IP addresses on the DSL side.
>
> The TELCO could invest in very good quality FXO/SIP hardware, the  
> lifeline PSTN is still available, and the private DSL/SIP would  
> connect to the LAN side of your network.
>
> A cool product if they could get it through the government regulators  
> at a reasonable price.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Lonnie
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:27 AM, Michael Graves wrote:
>
>   
>> My experience trying FXOs goes back some time, so there are now  
>> product
>> available that I have not tried. Here's what I tried:
>>
>> - Clone of Digium single port FXO PCI card
>> - Real Digium single port FXO PCI card (tried 3)
>> - Digium TDM-400 (configured for 2 x FXO)
>> - Sipura SPA-3000 (was part of the beta group)
>> - FXO on Zultys 4x5 SIP phone
>>
>> None were satisfactory. The Sangoma card was announced but not yet
>> delivering when I gave up and went a wholly IP based route.
>>
>> I polled the Asterisk Users mailing list asking about many of the  
>> small
>> FXO adapters that are around, but noone responded in a positive way.
>> Many were not yet SIP capable and had only shaky firmware moving in
>> that direction.
>>
>> The Zultys phone showed promise as the port was built right into the
>> phone, along with a router with QoS. However, their support policies
>> and processes were terrible. In the beta software that was aware of  
>> the
>> FXO it was only available as a "lifeline" to be used when IP
>> connectivity was lost. Incomming calls on that line could not be
>> forwarded to the server for VM, etc.
>>
>> Later software was supposed to have overcome this but neither the
>> company nor the reseller could tell how to set it up. The company said
>> that all support was provided by resellers. The resellers simply  
>> didn't
>> have the information.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:03:11 -0800, canuck15 wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Care to list the FXO's you tried?
>>>
>>> There is a lot of junk out there.
>>>
>>> I can recommend the recently introduced Sangoma A200D.  The new  
>>> Rhino card
>>> looks promising as well.  Have not found anything else that is worthy
>>> excluding T1 cards to channel banks which is not a very pretty  
>>> solution and
>>> impractical for small numbers of FXO's.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Michael Graves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:11 PM
>>> To: Discussion of AstLinux - Asterisk on Compact Flash;  
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Need FXO suggestions
>>>
>>> Been here, done this, maybe not with the device specifically...but  
>>> after 2
>>> years of trying & fighting with FXO interfaces/adatpers from  
>>> various sources
>>> I just gave up.
>>>
>>> As a short term solution I added call forwarding to all my lines  
>>> (only 3)
>>> then forwarded them to DIDs issued by ITSPs like Nufone,  
>>> Clearpath, etc.
>>>
>>> After about six months of this it was working well enough that I  
>>> ported my
>>> numbers to Nuvio, through their reseller CarolinaNet. This I've  
>>> had in place
>>> for just over six months. It's working great. The only time it  
>>> hasn'worked
>>> was when I blew an upgrade on my server or had trouble getting  
>>> G729 working.
>>>
>>> Small FXOs are just not worth the trouble....IMHO....of course YMMV.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> --Original Message Text---
>>> From: Gary G. Hendershot
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:50:09 -0500
>>>
>>> I saw this one and felt the same way ... say what you want about
>>> GrandStream's phones, they are cheap, easy to setup and pretty  
>>> much just
>>> work ... agree that sound quality is not as good as on better  
>>> quality phones
>>> and they kind of feel cheap ... but I cannot say that I did not  
>>> get my
>>> money's worth when I bought their products ...
>>>
>>> I am sorely tempted to give this gizmo a try ... at $250 it is  
>>> certainly
>>> below the threshold of pain ... but I hesitate to try it on my  
>>> main office
>>> production machine ... if I was thinking of using it on one of my lab
>>> monkeys it would be an interesting toy to play with ... but I  
>>> think for
>>> production, I will look for something that is known to be of high  
>>> quality
>>> ..
>>>
>>> but if anyone takes the gamble and the gizmo works, PLEASE let me  
>>> know ...
>>> if I were to hear back from a couple folks that this piece worked  
>>> well, had
>>> decent sound quality and was reasonably easy to setup, I would  
>>> jump on it in
>>> a heart beat at this price point ...
>>>
>>> G.Hendershot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Lonnie Abelbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:11 PM
>>> To: Discussion of AstLinux - Asterisk on Compact Flash
>>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Need FXO suggestions
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>> I ran across a new FXO product from Grandstream...
>>>
>>>
>>> Grandstream GXW-4104 Analog FXO IP Gateway - 4 Port:
>>> http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-056-4104.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> I know, I know, it's Grandstream... but has anyone gambled $250 to  
>>> try this
>>> box?
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be an awesome solution if the voice quality was good.
>>>
>>>
>>> Lonnie
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Gary G. Hendershot wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I need to get some feedback from you folks on what to use for an FXO
>>> solution ...
>>>
>>>
>>> at my main office, I need to feed a total of four (4) phone lines  
>>> into my
>>> Astlinux server ... I am currently using a Digium 4 port card but am
>>> becoming quite frustrated with issues related to echo and choppy  
>>> sound ... I
>>> have managed to reduce the problems with sound quality  
>>> substantially by
>>> installing fresh cable from the phone closet to the location of  
>>> the Astlinux
>>> machine but it is still at an unacceptable level ...
>>>
>>>
>>> I have heard very good things about Sangoma but understand that  
>>> support for
>>> these cards is not currently in Astlinux ... and while the cards  
>>> are not
>>> horribly expensive, they are costly enough that I hesitate to  
>>> spend that
>>> money without some assurance that support for them will be  
>>> ongoing ...
>>>
>>>
>>> I have also heard pretty good reports about the 4 port analog  
>>> Rhino card ...
>>> these are also a bit pricey to buy without knowing for sure that  
>>> it would
>>> save the whales and feed the starving ... but it seems that the  
>>> card is
>>> readily supported in Astlinux ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Some time ago I played around with a couple FXO gateway  
>>> gadgets ... one of
>>> them, the Mediatrix 1204 seemed to work quite well but that was  
>>> back in the
>>> pre-1.0 days of Asterisk so I am not sure if this might still be a  
>>> good
>>> option ... and if I recall, the only way I could afford to get my  
>>> hands on
>>> one was because I chanced into a bargain on a good used one ...  
>>> darn thing
>>> was very expensive if purchased new ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Bottom line is, I would like to hear from others who have tried a  
>>> couple FXO
>>> solutions what their experiences have been with the options they  
>>> tried ... I
>>> need to make a decision on this one in the next few days ... I am  
>>> also
>>> interested in hearing arguments about the pros/cons of using an  
>>> external
>>> gateway instead of a PCI card ...
>>>
>>>
>>> your opinions are valued ...
>>>
>>>
>>> G.Hendershot
>>>
>>>
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Isn't this what BT is doing already?

-Bryce
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