Hi Julf,
Julf wrote: 
> 
> I think that is a rather simplistic (and somewhat offensive) view of
> engineers (in the sense of "a professional practitioner of engineering,
> concerned with applying scientific knowledge, mathematics and ingenuity
> to develop solutions for technical, social and economic problems" as
> opposed to someone who runs a train or twiddles knobs in a studio until
> all red lights light up).
> 
I appeared to be channeling Sheldon there, sorry! I mean some people
like to see things black and white and do this under the banner of
science.

Julf wrote: 
> 
> No. But it would be very bad science to throw away the baby with the
> bath wather by declaring "there are some issues with listening tests,
> thus listening tests are useless".
> 
I agree it would be bad science and I wasn't suggesting that.

Julf wrote: 
> 
> Do you know of any better ways to avoid perceptual bias (the biggest
> single challenge in audio)?
> 
No, which is why I believe blind testing is the best testing...the ONLY
testing worth a damn for reaching objective decisions...that we've got.
That's different to assuming everything is cut and dried. On a spectrum
from skeptical to subjectivist I am very nearly all the way to the
skeptical end. But not all the way.

Julf wrote: 
> 
> And we would probably end up arguing about the choice of music and the
> quality of the drink... :)
> 
> OK, I'll get my anorak...
LOL!
Darren


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