All I can say we delt with Reg Perkins in CASA Cairns office for our AOC and
he was extremely helpful even to the extent to phoning us when we had not
followed something up. There should be more Reg Perkins in this world
Ian Mc Phee
Box 657  Byron Bay  NSW 2481  Australia
Tel 02  66 847 642
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www.mrsoaring.com

----- Original Message -----
From: John Giddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] AOC Training (Sporting Aviation)


> I second Derek's comments.  Last year, our overworked
> secretary spent many, many hours filling in the reams of
> paper needed to apply to have our AOC *renewed*. He also had
> to rewrite our Ops Manual to cover items not covered in the
> GFA Ops Manual (MOSP), and then was knocked back.  This AOC
> was only to allow us to offer "joy flights" to the public
> instead of insisting they take an AEF when they expressed
> the desire to *definitely* not touch the controls.  We still
> haven't received an AOC.
> Now it seems that we will be *forced* to get one to be able
> to offer our own members tuition.  I hope they make the
> process easier than it is at present !!
> What is GFA doing to fight this CASA idiocy ?
> I take some heart from the Press Release from John Anderson.
> At least CASA should be talking to GFA.
> Cheers,  John G.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Derek Ruddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [aus-soaring] AOC Training (Sporting Aviation)
>
>
> | This is exactly what we had to go through to renew our
> club AOC .
> | Interviews of the CFI by CASA prior to him being
> 'approved',
> | a huge amount of effort & rework, before our operations
> manual was 'approved',
> | a mountain of paperwork etc etc.  All this to fly TIF's
> (sorry AEF's)
> |
> | How are small clubs going to cope?
> |
> |
> | >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18/10/01 8:53:13 >>>
> | Just to clarify, folks, this NPRM does apply to GFA, so we
> are right in
> | the firing line right now. So read my last email again and
> follow the
> | links and read all about it. My reading of it in summary
> is that any
> | club that runs training would have to pay CASA at least
> $600 for the
> | start-up cost to continue what they are doing plus
> surveillance at $75
> | per hour from the time the CASA personnel leaves the
> office. Not on.
> |
> | Regards,
> | John.
> |
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