Hi Andrew,

Emilis' Garmin 12XL is showing a diagnostic saying something like 
'internal battery low' as well. Something like 3-4 years.

Sounds like a production issue.

But here's the potentially good news. We just logged a query with 
Garmin technical support about the unit, and they got back to us and 
told us how to get it replaced free of charge, if feeding the unit 
new batteries and leaving it off for a few days didn't cure it.

You might want to consider doing the same.

As I own an organisation that lives or dies on customer service, I 
appreciate, perhaps more than some, how frustrating it is to be 
damned in public before one is asked, in private, to just fix the 
problem. Because when people ask a good organisation for help, they 
get it, regardless of the nominal warranty period.

I know it's the great Australian way to presume that people you buy 
things from don't give a stuff about you, and I wish it wasn't the 
great Australian way.

Have you tried asking Garmin for assistance with this? You might find 
that they're just as happy to replace your unit as they seem to be to 
replace Emilis' one.

We just filled in this form:

http://www.garmin.com/contactUs/techSupport.html

And explained the error message we get on power-on, and asked for 
help. They offered (despite their one year warranty) to replace the 
unit if the error didn't go away after putting in a new set of 
batteries.

So my experience, and opinion, of Garmin, is the precise opposite of 
yours, as a result of exactly the same initial fault.

Cheers,
Simon

At 12:37 PM +0930 26/10/01, ANDREW WRIGHT wrote:
>Dear All
>       I think I have just been stung badly and would like to pass this info
>onto users or potential users of GARMIN handheld GPS.
>       GARMIN handheld GPS have an internal lithium backup battery in
>them that is kept charged by the main power batteries ( usually 4 X AAs). 
>This internal battery maintains the waypoints etc when the unit is turned off
>and the main batteries are less than fully charged or removed.  When this
>internal battery dies, which it is designed to do after about 10 years, you
>throw the whole bloody GPS out the window!!!  This is because the internal
>battery is sealed in place and CAN NOT be replaced.
>       How crazy is that !!!   Like scraping your car because the ash tray
>is full!  I expected to be able to use my GARMIN 12XL for a lot more than
>10 years !
>       As my GARMIN 12XL internal battery has just died (after only 4
>years I might add), I will definitely not be buying another GARMIN.  I would
>rather spend more on something that is serviceable and will give me years
>of service if looked after.  Perhaps if we all did the same they (GARMIN)
>would get the message!
>       SIGNED
>       Pretty pissed off.
>
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