Hi Nigel,

Great news !!

Make that 31. If it works you can count me in too.

Dave Shorter
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Hi Rolf,

The expected release from here would be around Xmas - New year as we had to
write all the code ourselves as the FLARM people are less than helpful in
that area ( I guess they want to protect their sales ). The RF protocol is
what we need to get right so we have compatability. The second problem with
the Swiss units is that they transmit on a band that is not used here, nor
legal. However, the transceiver chip they use can be re programmed to one we
can use here - complicated but ops normal for these standards. I will keep
everyone up to date with progress, our aim is to provide units at Oz
acceptable pricing so no one has an excuse not to fit one, currently the
Swiss units are around $900.00 plus GST - we hope to get it down to under
$500.00.

Your comments on fitment are pretty much the same as the others who have
emailed myself, I know of at least 30 others so far who want one, I am sure
that will increase.

Cheers

Nigel



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-----Original Message-----
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buelter
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:48 PM
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] More information on Flarm


Nigel, you inadvertantly already answered one of my questions on Ozflarm,
regarding compatability with the original. My second burning question is
availability. When can it be used by competition pilots? I am of the firm
opinion that the use of Flarm (as long as legal) has little to do with the
GFA or comp organisers but is an individual choice. I don't buy the argument

that all must have i to make it work either. If 2 of 50 competitors have it installed (myself and one other) the risk of a midair is reduced by 4 %. I'm

prepared to start like that, hoping that non equipped gliders will sooner or

later be outcasts.
So - when can we have it?
Best regards - Rolf

snip
FLARM which is well progressed, which will have compatibility with
SWISS FLARM , and , ADS-B. ADS-B will require the addition of a
receiver, which we are developing for the G.A market.

Cheers

Nigel





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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:58 PM
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Peter and Mandy Temple wrote:

G'day all,



I've received further information on operation of the Flarm. All of the
improvements that I considered (and more) were already in the unit that
I flew with in France! See the report dated 6 September on
http://www.users.on.net/~mwilson/vinon2005/
<http://www.users.on.net/%7Emwilson/vinon2005/>



Many thanks for the info - very interesting. I look forward to hearing
how the trials go at Gawler.

With the reports we have been getting from Europe, it sounds as if
FLARM is a truly excellent device. There is only one issue I have with
it: if the gliding world in Oz adopts FLARM, how are we going to
interface to the rest of aviation (who will be using ADS-B).

>From what Migel Andrews has been saying, it is relatively easy to add
ADS-B
reception to FLARM. This will give the gliding world information about
what the rest of aviation is doing in the sky around them, but it won't
give the rest of aviation information about the gliders in the sky.
Adding ADS-B transmit is a problem in terms of power usage, but I can
see another prolem too. If gliders start xmitting ADS-B info (in
addition to FLARM), it will be necessary to suppress the ADS-B info
from other gliders to prevent alarms going off all over the place in
gaggles and such.

Having read the article posted here a week or so ago (written by
someone in GA I think - I can't find the article in the archive), I am
not sure that the rest of the aviation world is quite aware of the
problems that ADS-B has for glider operations.

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Brisbane, Australia                        http://www.hart.wattle.id.au



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