Mark
Very well said - I am still to get around to filling out that crap form for 
that stupid red card and I get told by a flying school I am supposed to have 
same to do my biannual review so I am one less tugpilot around the place.

Not too worry I am off to the aircraft welder (Ballina Airport) 9am this 
morning without the read card (legal as I am booking in for aviation servivce) 
except now I must walk 600m for the cup of coffee. Another mate has a solution 
- he arrives at an airport and slips on a dayglo green shirt and often carries 
in a clear plastic pouch around his neck with all the paperwork he has had over 
that red card.  Because of the dayglo shirt nobody questions him for being on 
airside of fence - they do not look for red card.  I have heard of one good use 
for that red card in that at airports (like Bris, Melb) you get staff discount 
on your coffee.  

Yes Sir Donald Anderson were the good old days but in those days GFA had tough 
nuts like old Jack Iggulden who would never take no for an answer and just gave 
them heaps till he got what he wanted for GFA (and went to jail over his 
principles).  I can still remember him telling me in 1938 (?) there was a 
referendum in AUS to give power for aviation from the states to the 
Commonwealth and it was lost.  In the '80s Jack went into battle for a guy 
operating without a chief pilot and it was thrown out of court under section 9x 
(?) of the Australian constutation and we never heard another word about that. 
Perhaps CASA have a lot less power than they think over aviation 

I can remember in the old days when first of type (gliders) were done by CASA 
and you would sit around after the inspection for 2+ months waiting for "permit 
to fly". and I finally I went to our then local member Ian Sinclair and within 
4hrs we had the permit. You had to use political pressure to get things done 
with DCA.  Now days just get onto John Viney (T,W,T) and fix up a few errors on 
the phone and you have the Exp Certificate within the day write a flight test 
report and next week you have your C of A.  That is service

No not CASA please

Ian McPhee              
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Rowe 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences


  Guys,
   
  There is an option now, Good?? Sustainable?? Fair?? Legal?? Its definately 
for "individual thinkers and not team players". 
  Personaly i am quite proud to be a part of an Organization that although 
sometimes imperfect, (who isnt) speaks as one voice for our collective rights. 
Really if you dont agree with anything the GFA do, the job can be yours (be 
prepared for the workload though and real decisions are made by volunteirs).
  I do wonder about how that "parallel Path" gets administered though, I am in 
licensing now and boy the international requirements are conveluted to say the 
least. With cost recovery (see warbirds at the moment) it may be a very 
beurocratic and expencive path.
   
  I hate this whole show me your qualls crap out there now, when i see a red 
card (ASIC) around a persons neck at a non RPT AP it allerts me to the wanker 
status imediately. Worst is he has probably been told by some wannabe he MUST 
wear it.
  Take me back to the 70s, Sir Don actually still had benifits of his vision 
hapening. 
   
  This is all my personal view and not to be taken as gosphel or any policy, i 
get it wrong regularly, its too bloody hard to keep clear.
  Its nice to hear other views and expressions though, constructive crytisism 
may one day push towards improvements albeit slowly..
   
  In sumary there are a lot of warts on this toad and the toad we have is at 
least not poisonous.
   
  Cheers
   
  Mark
   
  P.S I do get payed by CASA, doesnt mean i am CASA, i do regularly see some 
really clever dedicated people in there though. and i owe the place a lot, if i 
knew then what i know now!!!!
   
   
  > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:17:14 +1000
  > To: [email protected]
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences
  > 
  > At 09:29 AM 31/05/2007, you wrote:
  > >" We discussed this on this group about 3 or 4 years ago and the
  > >sentiment was strongly in favour of adding a glider rating to any
  > >other CASA licence.."
  > >
  > >That's not how I remember that discussion Mike, I do not recall any general
  > >sentiment in either way, just points both for and against. It may have been
  > >(unsurprisingly) the sentiment of those who already have a CASA license.
  > >Have to agree largely about the GFA though.
  > >
  > >Dave
  > 
  > Dave,
  > 
  > The other point to be made was that the CASA RPPL proposal was an 
  > *OPTION*. Those who wished to stay with the GFA system, RAAus etc 
  > could do so with no change.
  > So maybe one of the GFA defenders could tell us why they wished to 
  > deny people the option.
  > 
  > Mike
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