Well clearly we arent going to convince each other so I guess we should stop spamming the list. I was not trying to be rude, but I do think time in tertiary education is relevant, thank you for responding. I am doing a 4 year degree in Industrial Design. From a personal viewpoint VSU has worsened my university experience, but for others I'm sure it has improved.
Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tom Wilksch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] VSU was: Sporting Licences > At 05:51 PM 7/06/2007, you wrote: > > >> > Well *you* might. Others simply don't have the time or aren't >> > interested or already have real world interests. >> >>May I ask what you base this on? Have you ever studied at Uni? Something >>about the way you keep saying 'real world' makes me think not, but i could >>be wrong. > > > Not that it is any of your business or even relevant to the > discussion here, but I spent a total of 7 years in the tertiary > education system, two of them on staff. > > >> > If there are so many people like you one would think there would be >> > enough union membership that campus life would continue as before. >> >>You're right of course. Unfortunately it all takes time. The affects of >>lack of Union membership are felt in the following years, and this delay >>makes it hard to convince people to sign up. Why pay money that will only >>start to benefit people after you have left? > > > er... the union already existed, membership was made non compulsory, > people voted with their wallets. The union wasn't perceived as > supplying value for money. > It is called the market. Get used to it. The alternatives mostly > involve threatening people with violence in one form or another. > > >> > What you are complaining about is that nobody is now holding a gun to >> > the heads of the other people to get them to cough up to subsidise >> > your minority interests. >> >>I'm not talking about minority interests. My uni has lost a range of >>_services_ such as subsadised books for students, printing facilities and >>the book store itself. I dont actually care about the Union, just the >>facilities it provides. Would be perfectly happy with a facilities fee or >>something like that. Unfortunately, when it comes to the allocation of >>money, politics is always involved. > "subsidised books" . Where does the subsidy come from? Union fees or > other income made by the union(aas a result of fees). If someone gets > a subsidy, somebody else is missing out and getting nothing for their > money. > > I guess this is a "right wing libertarian viewpoint" > > What are you doing at uni? > > Mike > Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments > phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 > fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 > cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 > Int'l + 61 429 355784 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: www.borgeltinstruments.com > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [email protected] > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [email protected] To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
