Even though your'e quite right Tom, don't be too tough on Mike, he has a
good right wing/libertarian rant going (again). Pointing out he has no idea
what he is talking about in terms of Uni's and unions is a waste of time.
Mikes view seems to be the facts whilst interesting are irrelevant. When
confronted with statements like Mike's On Slashdot they say "Don't feed the
troll"-that might be appropriate. So here I go feeding the troll! 

Mike has to have a go at unions, after all employers would never exploit
people would they? They wouldn't be greedy or dishonest would they? Wantonly
put toxic chemicals into the environment? (10 year olds in coal mines,
Bhopal, Enron, AWB anyone) The right wing of politics and its blustering
propagandist's whom Mike so ably represents here have for years campaigned,
along with a press dominated by right wing owners and editors to demonise
unions, and have largely succeeded amongst the uninformed.

Mike how would going your way to flying gliders save me (NO PPL) Money? It
wouldn't-oh what a surprise. I am no fan of the GFA myself, and this is
Mike's pet subject, neatly of course, as usual ignoring the fact that most
glider pilots don't have a PPL and see no relevance to us in flying under
CASA.

So Mike how do you get a check flight? At what cost? How much does your form
2 cost at LAME rates? Tell me again how this is cheaper/better than the GFA
for the average (non PPL) glider pilot? It would cost me 5-10 years or more
of my gliding budget to get a PPL at current rates.


Dave




-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Borgelt
Sent: Thursday, 7 June 2007 1:24 PM
To: Tom Wilksch; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Sporting Licences

At 01:30 PM 7/06/2007, you wrote:

> > Obviously the GFA position was based on sheer greed and protecting
> > the revenue, bit like trade unions, student unions etc which we've
> > thankfully stopped.
> >
> > Mike
>
>Thankfully stopped?  I think maybe you should try being a student at Uni
>since VSU has come in before you make comments like that.
>
>Tom

Yes, thankfully stopped. I meant what I said. If a student union 
can't convince people to join without coercion it has no business being.
You go to uni to do a course, get a degree. Having the uni 
administration refuse to give you the degree you've earned because 
you won't join the union is thuggery of the first order.
The so called "services" provided by student unions are available in 
the real world and that includes sporting and special interest clubs. 
Might even get students more firmly grounded in the real world.

Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments
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