Hello Ian

I can provide you with test results.
  
Two years ago Schleicher asked me to try the new LCD lights
on my on my ASH 25. We integrated a double row of flashing
LCDs in the leading edge of both winglets and tested the 
effectiveness in bright Australian sunlight. 
The results were not as good as expected. I reported back
that the light intensity needs to be significantly increased 
in order to provide any major safety benefit. However, in 
overcast conditions (or while flying under a cloud street) 
these flashing LCDs allow the glider to be detected much 
easier.

Please feel free to contact me off line for further details.

Off to Mt. Beauty now!!! 

Bernard Eckey
FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD.
10 Antigua Grove
West Lakes 5021
Adelaide / South Australia
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Patching
Sent: Tuesday, 18 March 2008 10:24 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Keeping Visible

I can remember talking with the late Mike Valentine about the concept of

using strobe lights on aircraft in general. His comment was that a
single 
non flashing light was more effective than a strobe. This was quite
easily 
demonstrated with aircraft flying with their landing lights on were much

easier to see from much further away than ones just with the strobe on.
Try it sometime, particularly around a GA airport.

I believe that with the new LCD lights, which draw low power and a fixed
to 
a wing tip would be much more effective than a strobe. They would be
visible 
when turning and or head on.

I read a safety article in US Soaring mag once, that pointed out the 
following. And take note. The letter     o     at arms length,
represents 
the front on fuselage profile of a glider approximately 200 metres away.
Try 
it. A fixed beam of light from a wing tip would highlight this dot much 
quicker.

As we scan the sky we can very easily miss the flash of a strobe.

Finally with paint, when the VMFG operated Kookaburras,the lower surface
of 
one of our Long Wing Kookas was painted orange, the other one was white.

Even I can remember the orange one was much easier to see in any sort of

sky. 3 of my gliders have darker lower fuselages, orange and blue under 
white and even this stands out better than one colour.

The early PIK 20 came with optional White, Yellow, and even Green
finishes. 
The only trouble with the green one was, when flying in the British 
Nationals and landing out , the retrieve tug couldn't find it from the
air 
and it very quickly had orange stripes painted on.

Cheers all
Patch.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Keeping Visible


> Most Strobes in GA aircraft, require a fair wack of power, during the
day
> all they do is keep the pilot awake with annoying pings and zips in
your
> headset speakers.
>
> IIRC  the battery operated ones use Xenon? Globes,  but as always I
could 
> be
> wrong..........
>
> Flight trials may provide answers to see if they increase visibility.
>
> Regards
>
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Keeping Visible
>
>
>> New technology has allowed us to build battery run flashing light
>> (damn can't remember what they are called) - like those found on
light
>> aircraft. I believe in the past we were limited by power.
>>
>> I wonder if they would provide extra safety.
>>
>> Scott
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