Argh. Sorry. It's a monday morning and last night I bashed my head, hard,
against a chair. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.

Al


On 10/20/08, JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Al,
> nothing !!! sorry Al it was out of character for me, but I was being
> facetious, but a little disipline never hurt anybody right? ( cover me with
> icecream and bite my bum, I love it)
> JR
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Al Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
> Australia.<[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2008 9:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
>
>
> G'day JR,
>
> If you had a PPL and owned your own Cessna, CASA trusts that you keep your
> medical and BFR up to date. If they catch you operating illegally bad things
> happen. What's so special about motorgliders?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Al
>
>
> On 10/20/08, JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Tim,
>> who would know when you had your annual flight reveiw, or who would know
>> how current you were, this could get pretty nasty, thats why we have CFI's,
>> to make sure we all know how to recover from incipient spins, and fly proper
>> circuits.
>> regards
>> JR
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Tim Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
>> Australia. <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2008 7:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
>>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> Yes I think what I was getting at is that the high performance end of the
>> game is going very well at present, and I think could be better exploited as
>> a success by the organisation, and better supported in terms of
>> organisational structure and coaching.
>>
>> I don't claim to have all the answers, just a general observation that one
>> size doesn't fit all - and the current structure (not the individuals
>> necessarily) seems locked in to a concept that we are all either instructors
>> or at varying levels students.  For example, we must belong to a club, which
>> must have a Chief Flying Instructor.  Why a CFI, if the club does no
>> training?  Indeed, if we have and an independent operator rating why do we
>> need to belong to a club at all, if we have a self-launcher or we are
>> willing to pay the going rate for a tow to any licenced tug pilot?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> tom claffey wrote:
>>
>>   Agreed Tim, the old club system and new "high performance - private
>> owner" systems are working in parralel. GA equates more to the latter while
>> RAA is closer to GFA type but less supervision needed due to engines. I
>> wonder about accident levels [esp if less instructor supervision as some
>> would like]
>>
>>  Like Rolf I went to a WGC and GFA [much appreciated] funding didn't quite
>> cover entry fee - so only airfares/glider/car/accomm etc to be paid by me
>> [tows sponsered by a friendly diamond magnate] I now coach where I can and
>> instruct Junior cadets.
>>
>> After 19000hrs and a GA grade one instructor rating perhaps Mike would
>> accept me for his annual check!! [perhaps a ropebreak at 200' for a start]:)
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> --- On *Sun, 10/19/08, Tim Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> * wrote:
>>
>> From: Tim Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
>> To: "Aus-Soaring" 
>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>
>> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
>>
>> An excess of pPrunes was having its usual effect, so I thought I might
>> ask a slightly different question.
>>
>> Gliding today - like it or not - is largely a sport and/or recreation
>> involving high-tech and expensive equipment which requires high levels
>> of skill, resources and dedication to get the best out of it all.  It
>> has much more in common with off-shore sailing than it has with teaching
>> people to fly Cessnas or Technams.  Yet our structures and attitudes
>> still reflect the fantasy that we are mainly a flying training and
>> airworthiness organisation.  Just look at the current controversy over
>> the status of coaching to see how deep some people can
>>  bury their heads
>> in the sand.
>>
>> The big question is, what structures, training and organisation do we
>> need to support and grow the type of activity that gliding is now and
>> will be in the future?
>>
>> Unless you have a police box handy, going back to the good old days
>> isn't an option.
>>
>> Enjoy the prunes.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
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