SORRY
ps : how did your wave thing go? missed not being in alice, didnt seem quite
right somehow.
regards
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashford, John
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
That's what you get when you're serious once people expect it all the time.
regards
John Ashford
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JR
Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 11:16
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
Hi Al,
nothing !!! sorry Al it was out of character for me, but I was being
facetious, but a little disipline never hurt anybody right? ( cover me with
icecream and bite my bum, I love it)
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Borowski
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
G'day JR,
If you had a PPL and owned your own Cessna, CASA trusts that you keep your
medical and BFR up to date. If they catch you operating illegally bad things
happen. What's so special about motorgliders?
Cheers,
Al
On 10/20/08, JR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tim,
who would know when you had your annual flight reveiw, or who would know
how current you were, this could get pretty nasty, thats why we have CFI's, to
make sure we all know how to recover from incipient spins, and fly proper
circuits.
regards
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Shirley
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
Australia.
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
Hi Tom,
Yes I think what I was getting at is that the high performance end of the
game is going very well at present, and I think could be better exploited as a
success by the organisation, and better supported in terms of organisational
structure and coaching.
I don't claim to have all the answers, just a general observation that
one size doesn't fit all - and the current structure (not the individuals
necessarily) seems locked in to a concept that we are all either instructors or
at varying levels students. For example, we must belong to a club, which must
have a Chief Flying Instructor. Why a CFI, if the club does no training?
Indeed, if we have and an independent operator rating why do we need to belong
to a club at all, if we have a self-launcher or we are willing to pay the going
rate for a tow to any licenced tug pilot?
Cheers
Tim
tom claffey wrote:
Agreed Tim, the old club system and new "high performance - private
owner" systems are working in parralel. GA equates more to the latter while RAA
is closer to GFA type but less supervision needed due to engines. I wonder
about accident levels [esp if less instructor supervision as some would like]
Like Rolf I went to a WGC and GFA [much appreciated] funding
didn't quite cover entry fee - so only airfares/glider/car/accomm etc to be
paid by me [tows sponsered by a friendly diamond magnate] I now coach where I
can and instruct Junior cadets.
After 19000hrs and a GA grade one instructor rating perhaps Mike
would accept me for his annual check!! [perhaps a ropebreak at 200' for a
start]:)
Tom
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Tim Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Tim Shirley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?
To: "Aus-Soaring" <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:48 AM
An excess of pPrunes was having its usual effect, so I thought I might ask a
slightly different question. Gliding today - like it or not - is largely a
sport and/or recreation involving high-tech and expensive equipment which
requires high levels of skill, resources and dedication to get the best out of
it all. It has much more in common with off-shore sailing than it has with
teaching people to fly Cessnas or Technams. Yet our structures and attitudes
still reflect the fantasy that we are mainly a flying training and
airworthiness organisation. Just look at the current controversy over the
status of coaching to see how deep some people can bury their heads in the
sand. The big question is, what structures, training and organisation do we
need to support and grow the type of activity that gliding is now and will be
in the future? Unless you have a police box handy, going back to the good old
days isn't an option. Enjoy the prunes. Tim
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