Tim,
I will have to admit, I'm not a glider pilot, but really I am able to operate 
as an independant operator, at my home club, but usually tend to ring the clubs 
CFI and tell him what I am doing, or collectively as a fart ( I think that is 
the correct term for a group of independants,as is gaggle of geese) we tell him 
of our intentions, and that seems to work fine, but the thing I have trouble 
with, is if you are a commercial maintenance authority, and you do a form 2 
inspection on someones glider, you test fly it  do the paper work, and then the 
owner can basically do what he pleases. I have seen this very scenario, with my 
name on the paper work, and it left me rather cold, if that glider was invovled 
in an accident who's buttocks are the authorities going to looking for ?
enough from me .
regards
JR
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Shirley 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Where to from here?


  JR,

  My point exactly, though I don't think you intended it :).

  Why does gliding treat instructors as adults and everyone else like 
potentially irresponsible children?

  It's not that way in any other form of aviation.  The whole point of being an 
independent operator is so you can operate independently - my question was only 
to ask, what sort of structure would better suit those people.  None of this 
suggests that we don't need a BFR (come to think of it, why isn't it "B" in 
gliding?) or a medical, or a maintenance release - only to observe that in 
every other form of aviation it is the responsibility of the independent 
operator themselves to ensure compliance.  

  Of course, the owner of a glider may impose whatever additional requirements 
they wish - again this happens routinely in all forms of aviation.

  This is not an attack on instructors by the way.  They are in almost every 
case sensible and pragmatic people who do a terrific job.

  Cheers

  Tim

  JR wrote: 
    Hi Tim,
    who would know when you had your annual flight reveiw, or who would know 
how current you were, this could get pretty nasty, thats why we have CFI's, to 
make sure we all know how to recover from incipient spins, and fly proper 
circuits.
    regards
    JR




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