The simple answer to whoever suggested that Tom may not be competent to hold a 
GPC is something like “don’t be silly”.  Which may not, of course, stop them 
from being just that.

 

Cheers

 

Tim

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc 
Donnell
Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2010 13:14
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Safety Seminar - VSA Region - last opportunity

 

Yes Tom, there is that sort of issue too.

 

I was alluding more to the GFA's Articles of Association, in particular rules 
3, 6, & 10, ability to cope/cater with mandatory membership.

 

 

Chris

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: tom claffey <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: Discussion of issues relating to 
<mailto:[email protected]>  Soaring in Australia. 

Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Safety Seminar - VSA Region - last opportunity

 


While conducting an e-mail war with CASA re a licence/letter of qualification 
to replace SLMG on my ATPL [for the World Comps] the CASA man implied that 
although he was satisfied that the GPC syllabus satisfied the ICAO licence 
requirements he could not be certain that I was trained in accordance with the 
syllabus. As my old instructor has recently died and cannot certify it looks 
like I may never get one!  [I guess 20 000hrs and an ATPL does not help]
Tom

--- On Thu, 12/8/10, Christopher Mc Donnell <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Christopher Mc Donnell <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Safety Seminar - VSA Region - last opportunity
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
<[email protected]>
Received: Thursday, 12 August, 2010, 2:17 PM

John Switala cited from the "Sport Aviation Self-Administration Handbook 2010". 

 

"The main condition is that if participants want to

undertake one of the exempted activities they have

to belong to a specified organisation. Without full

membership people are not legally allowed to take

part in these activities."

 

Therein lay some interesting issues.

 

Chris McDonnell

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John Switala 

To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Safety Seminar - VSA Region - last opportunity

 

Mike (and others)

 

I believe there has been a change in CASA probably commenced by the now 
Director John McCormick.  While fundamentally I believe there has been little 
change in the basic intent of the legislation (although there has been some) 
that we operate under, there has been an attention to “burden of proof” (for 
want of a better term) that the GFA can administer its segment of aviation.

 

It is the administrative process that CASA is concentrating on in order to 
“assure” itself that the GFA can administer the sport.  Personally I can see 
little in the administration process that directly impacts, for example, 
safety, but, from CASA’s point of view, the existence of these systems and 
processes is evidence to them that the administration function is being carried 
out appropriately.

 

One of the focuses of the GFA Safety Seminars is to explain and describe the 
administrative changes that the GFA has had to implement to assure CASA of our 
administrative capabilities.  Individual pilots would gain an understanding of 
why some of these changes are being implemented and other changes that will 
affect how we fly today and continuing ability to fly in the future.

 

Below is an extract from the "Sport Aviation Self-Administration Handbook 
2010", page 2 under Introduction:

http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/pilots/download/sport.pdf

 

The acronym RAAO stands for Recreational Aviation Administration Organisation - 
for us this means GFA 

 

I have highlighted what I think are the significant portions and the language 
that CASA is using to make its point.  I think there is also a change (more 
emphasis) in the “oversighting” of activities.

 

 

What is self-administration?

The differences within sport aviation activities have

led to the existence of special oversight rules within

Australian aviation legislation. Australian sport

aviation operates under self-administration. This

means that CASA sets the regulations and then works

in close cooperation with the RAAOs, to make sure

the regulations are applied and enforced. The RAAOs

provide CASA with specialist knowledge and insight

into the sport aviation industry.

 

The Civil Aviation Regulations 1988 were not intended

to regulate this class of aircraft or activities. Currently,

RAAOs overseeing these activities do so under

exemptions and delegations. This set of rules allows

specialised craft such as balloons and aircraft that

don’t meet certification standards to operate through

a series of exemptions from the regulations applying

to broader aviation activities. 

 

These exemptions are conditional.

 

The main condition is that if participants want to

undertake one of the exempted activities they have

to belong to a specified organisation. Without full

membership people are not legally allowed to take

part in these activities.

 

The organisations exist to oversee members’ activities

and assure CASA that activities are being conducted

safely. CASA needs to be fully confident that RAAOs

have the capacity to provide the safety outcomes

required. If organisations can’t assure CASA of this,

then CASA can’t allow the organisation to continue to

administer its activities under the exemption.

 

Without the exemption, the activities allowed by

it can’t occur. That is, if the organisation doesn’t

assure CASA that it is meeting safety outcomes and

oversighting activities, people wanting to fly under

the exemption can’t.

 

Without the exemption then, people wanting to fly

need to meet the regulations that apply to other

aviation activities.

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt
Sent: Thursday, 12 August 2010 11:10 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA Safety Seminar - VSA Region - last opportunity

 

At 12:25 PM 11/08/2010, you wrote:

 

 

>  Of specific interest is the new CASA imperatives and how they 

> affect our flying and continuing ability to fly in the future.

 

 

I guess CASA could require gliders to be certified, have a C of A, a 

C of R and a maintenance release.... oh wait!

 

Mike

 

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