Hi all,
Warning - cliche alert.
Most of the following applies to everything, not simply Open Source
Software or XCSoar. I make no criticism of that product because I
know next to nothing about it
1. In life, you don't always get what you pay for, but it's not a
bad way to bet.2. Quality is remembered long after price is
forgotten.3. What everyone owns, no one owns (like public
transport).4. Software development is sexy and creative, and lots of
people want to do it. I'm still doing it, even at my age. The
development, I mean!5. Software maintenance is a pain in the
proverbial and no one wants to do it - especially for free.
A couple of very prominent members of this list have made a living
over a long period of time by making and supporting products for our
sport that people were willing to buy. They did not and could not
sustain that effort without getting paid for it. They have to eat.
I applaud them and support them, even if I don't always agree with
them :) So should we all.
Cheers
_TIM_
_Tra dire e fare, c’è mezzo il mare_
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From: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
To:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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Sent:Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:38:16 +1100
Subject:Re: [Aus-soaring] Club vario-continued
Alan, I'll disagree about the pre flight niggles.
Mine is a Club Class aircraft, a B500 and an (using SeeZyou) set up
with aircraft and location profiles; apart from entering the task of
the day it's plug and play - and thats what most club pilots want.
The biggest attraction of XCSoar is its free.
Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508
On 19/10/2013, at 7:05, Alan Wilson wrote:
I would like to say XCSoar is great. If you own a $100k glider
then perhaps several more thousand on cockpit instruments is your
fancy. In my experience they have most of the same niggles: they all
need plenty of pre flight work.
I fly whatever the club offers at club rates so the club benefits.
I carry a $50 Chinese GPS velcro'd to my Jeans. It is now powered by
a $50 Kogan USB 6600 mah battery. Sometimes I can fit it on a RAM
mount powered by a cigarette lighter fitting in some club gliders.
XCSoar provides me with heaps of information: wind velocity after 3
orbits, long snail trail, last thermal sources, in sector at turn
points, very accurate final glides, safety heights...... And a
multitude of other information. The red/green below/about glide
marker on the LHS keeps me safe when local soaring etc. you can see
meant traces on the OLC.
Simple, effective, cheap and mine in any glider.
XCSoar guys, many thanks, please keep it up and open source. Ta...
Alan Wilson Canberra for the last 40 years.
Sent from my iPad...... So I know about proprietary software.
On 18 Oct 2013, at 22:46, Paul Bart wrote:
I would like to support Scott's position. I have run XCSoar on many
devices HP 318, Dell Streak, lately on Nexus 7 and Nexus 4., never a
problem. On Android even the update take care of themselves. A
fantastic project.
Cheers
Paul
On 18 October 2013 16:39, Scott Penrose wrote:
On 18/10/2013, at 5:27 PM, Mark Fisher wrote:
When you run XCSoar you accept the niggles of open source. Food for
thought.
I really have no comment on how XCSoar runs on the Oudie, never seen
or done it.
But the comment is about out of line for open source. What phone do
you use? Is Android more niggly than iOS? Maybe. What about Chrome vs
IE? Open Office vs Office? Firefox? List could go on for a few pages
in 8 point font.
Quality of projects, installation, documentation and usability is not
based on whether it is open source or not. Of course there is a lot
more open source software, so you get more of all types :-)
Scott
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