Paul,
        sorry not true; In my experience when members are asked why they
use XCSoar the majority will tell you "because it's free"  - if honest consumer 
feedback is seen to be a put down that's disappointing.

Stuart FERGUSON 
Phone - 0419 797508


On 19/10/2013, at 9:51, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:

> "The biggest attraction of XCSoar is its free."
> 
> Sorry Stuart, but that is an unnecessary put down for many people who 
> developed XCSoar. I use Oudie withSeeYou (fitted to a club glider) and I use 
> XCSoar. I can assure you that the relatively low cost of SeeYou (if you 
> consider the annual cost of maintaining a glider) would not deter me from 
> using it. I use XCSoar because I prefer it.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 19 October 2013 06:38, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON <[email protected]> wrote:
> Alan,
>          I'll disagree about the pre flight niggles.
> 
> Mine is a Club Class aircraft, a B500 and an (using SeeZyou) set up with 
> aircraft
> and location profiles; apart from entering the task of the day it's plug and 
> play - and
> thats what most club pilots want.
> 
> The biggest attraction of XCSoar is its free.
> 
> Stuart FERGUSON 
> Phone - 0419 797508
> 
> 
> On 19/10/2013, at 7:05, Alan Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I would like to say XCSoar is great.  If you own a $100k glider then perhaps 
>> several more thousand on cockpit instruments is your fancy. In my experience 
>> they have most of the same niggles: they all need plenty of pre flight work.
>> 
>> I fly whatever the club offers at club rates so the club benefits.  I carry 
>> a $50 Chinese GPS velcro'd to my Jeans. It is now powered by a $50 Kogan USB 
>> 6600 mah battery. Sometimes I can fit it on a RAM mount powered by a 
>> cigarette lighter fitting in some club gliders.
>> 
>> XCSoar provides me with heaps of information: wind velocity after 3 orbits, 
>> long snail trail, last thermal sources, in sector at turn points, very 
>> accurate final glides, safety heights...... And a multitude of other 
>> information.  The red/green  below/about glide marker on the LHS keeps me 
>> safe when local soaring etc.  you can see meant traces on the OLC.
>> 
>> Simple, effective, cheap and mine in any glider.
>> 
>> XCSoar guys, many thanks, please keep it up and open source. Ta...
>> 
>> Alan Wilson
>> Canberra for the last 40 years.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad...... So I know about proprietary software.
>> 
>> On 18 Oct 2013, at 22:46, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would like to support Scott's position. I have run XCSoar on many devices 
>>> HP 318, Dell Streak, lately on Nexus 7 and Nexus 4., never a problem. On 
>>> Android even the update take care of themselves. A fantastic project.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 October 2013 16:39, Scott Penrose <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 18/10/2013, at 5:27 PM, Mark Fisher wrote:
>>> 
>>>> When you run XCSoar you accept the niggles of open source. Food for 
>>>> thought.
>>> 
>>> I really have no comment on how XCSoar runs on the Oudie, never seen or 
>>> done it.
>>> 
>>> But the comment is about out of line for open source. What phone do you 
>>> use? Is Android more niggly than iOS? Maybe. What about Chrome vs IE? Open 
>>> Office vs Office? Firefox? List could go on for a few pages in 8 point font.
>>> 
>>> Quality of projects, installation, documentation and usability is not based 
>>> on whether it is open source or not. Of course there is a lot more open 
>>> source software, so you get more of all types :-)
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
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