Well when you made the statement you did not indicate that it was a result
of consumer feedback, if indeed users of a free product can be classified
as consumers, you have simply made a statement that by any measure was
disparaging of XCSoar.

Anyway, I am yet to find the any problems with XCSoar, and so are many
others, given the posts here.

Paul
 On Oct 18, 2013 9:21 PM, "Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Paul,
>         sorry not true; In my experience when members are asked why they
> use XCSoar the majority will tell you "because it's free"  - if honest
> consumer
> feedback is seen to be a put down that's disappointing.
>
> Stuart FERGUSON
> Phone - 0419 797508
>
>
> On 19/10/2013, at 9:51, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "The biggest attraction of XCSoar is its free."
>
> Sorry Stuart, but that is an unnecessary put down for many people who
> developed XCSoar. I use Oudie withSeeYou (fitted to a club glider) and I
> use XCSoar. I can assure you that the relatively low cost of SeeYou (if you
> consider the annual cost of maintaining a glider) would not deter me from
> using it. I use XCSoar because I prefer it.
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 19 October 2013 06:38, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>          I'll disagree about the pre flight niggles.
>>
>> Mine is a Club Class aircraft, a B500 and an (using SeeZyou) set up with
>> aircraft
>> and location profiles; apart from entering the task of the day it's plug
>> and play - and
>> thats what most club pilots want.
>>
>> The biggest attraction of XCSoar is its free.
>>
>> Stuart FERGUSON
>> Phone - 0419 797508
>>
>>
>> On 19/10/2013, at 7:05, Alan Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to say XCSoar is great.  If you own a $100k glider then
>> perhaps several more thousand on cockpit instruments is your fancy. In my
>> experience they have most of the same niggles: they all need plenty of pre
>> flight work.
>>
>> I fly whatever the club offers at club rates so the club benefits.  I
>> carry a $50 Chinese GPS velcro'd to my Jeans. It is now powered by a $50
>> Kogan USB 6600 mah battery. Sometimes I can fit it on a RAM mount powered
>> by a cigarette lighter fitting in some club gliders.
>>
>> XCSoar provides me with heaps of information: wind velocity after 3
>> orbits, long snail trail, last thermal sources, in sector at turn points,
>> very accurate final glides, safety heights...... And a multitude of other
>> information.  The red/green  below/about glide marker on the LHS keeps me
>> safe when local soaring etc.  you can see meant traces on the OLC.
>>
>> Simple, effective, cheap and *mine* in any glider.
>>
>> XCSoar guys, many thanks, please keep it up and open source. Ta...
>>
>> Alan Wilson
>> Canberra for the last 40 years.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad...... So I know about proprietary software.
>>
>> On 18 Oct 2013, at 22:46, Paul Bart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  I would like to support Scott's position. I have run XCSoar on many
>> devices HP 318, Dell Streak, lately on Nexus 7 and Nexus 4., never a
>> problem. On Android even the update take care of themselves. A fantastic
>> project.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 18 October 2013 16:39, Scott Penrose <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 18/10/2013, at 5:27 PM, Mark Fisher wrote:
>>>
>>> When you run XCSoar you accept the niggles of open source. Food for
>>> thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> I really have no comment on how XCSoar runs on the Oudie, never seen or
>>> done it.
>>>
>>> But the comment is about out of line for open source. What phone do you
>>> use? Is Android more niggly than iOS? Maybe. What about Chrome vs IE? Open
>>> Office vs Office? Firefox? List could go on for a few pages in 8 point font.
>>>
>>> Quality of projects, installation, documentation and usability is not
>>> based on whether it is open source or not. Of course there is a lot more
>>> open source software, so you get more of all types :-)
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
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