All valid points and it's hard to please humans 100% of the time. All we can do is provide options and boundaries which the board have done.
It's now up to the community to make choices. The board to a great job and it's easy for me to play devil's advocate from my arm chair. I look forward to attending an AusNOG in any inclusive and available form that works for everyone. Cheers Shaun Deans π§ββοΈ kadeo.au 1800 WKD KDO π±πββοΈ On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:34 Terry Manderson, <[email protected]> wrote: > Heh π .666 of a seat ... cute π > > there are of course two other interesting components to this 1. "its the > network (of people) behind the network.. eg get to know people, meet > people, be in person (if you can) and build trust by eating with, drinking > with, those that you can help or they can help you.... 2. if it is streamed > and you are remote, the "ausnog steam blackout" isn't helpful to anyone. > > my perspective, ymmv. > > Cheers, > Terry > -- > Mobile device, don't expect grammar. > > On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:23 pm, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> wrote: > > ο»Ώ > > Terry > > You do raise a valid point and I hear your view. > > Numbers and statistics can be viewed to make anyone's points true I was > just saying - what if. > > > Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s > > All advice is general in nature /s > > But in the interest of healthy community debate: > > Let's say 1/4 of the talks are only 'in the room' > > Therefore the above is discounted by 25% cause the participants only get > 75% of the event. > > - 15,000 / ($300 * 0.75) = 66.666 Tickets. > > For every pro there is a con. > Innovation does not come without compromise. > > I'm sure those extra 16 seats will sell fast with the e-swag that they > receive. > > Don't know how I'm going to fill that .666 of a seat π > > > Cheers > > Shaun Deans > π§ββοΈ kadeo.au > 1800 WKD KDO > π±πββοΈ > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:09 Andrew White, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I thought the key benefit was Sactioned Swag (tm)? >> >> - Whitey >> >> On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 17:04, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Shaun, >>> >>> are you aware that not all presentations can be streamed? Many >>> presenters provide content that is "in room only" and even their slides >>> can't be shared. How does that factor into you math? >>> >>> That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as there have been (and will be) >>> many presentations you won't see on youtube. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Terry >>> -- >>> Mobile device, don't expect grammar. >>> >>> On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> ο»Ώ >>> >>> It got the better of me and I'm glad it did. >>> >>> TLDR: 50x Streams = 'the sponsor' *- Swag * >>> >>> --- >>> >>> 1. Income >>> 1. August 2022 = ~ 300 Attendees >>> <https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/attendees>at $600 per >>> ticket (Average) >>> <https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2022/registration> >>> 2. Total $180K >>> 3. Sponsors = 'Nearly Half' β $90K >>> >>> 2. Who Done It And What Did They Offer ? >>> 1. I'm just going to say everyone pays equal but they probably don't >>> 2. This will bias for the fact that it could be any tiering and >>> we don't want to single out community members who may be sponsors >>> 3. So the 'sponsor income' could be 15K >>> 1. nice round number >>> 2. and its 'nearly half' >>> >>> 3. Streaming to to masses! >>> 1. 50% Cost for Streaming Ticket = $300 >>> 2. Total Streams = $15,000 / $300 >>> 3. That's only *50 tickets and it may break even* >>> 1. 3 people said they'd be interested already. >>> >>> 4. This doesn't include: >>> 1. Savings: Onsite Costs such as venue hire, insurance, etc etc >>> 2. Expenses: Bandwidth and Streaming Costs[image: π] >>> >>> 5. *Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s* >>> 6. >>> *All advice is general in nature /s * >>> >>> [image: π€] [image: πββοΈ] >>> >>> SD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 15:19:29, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> > How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event >>>> for those who canβt attend >>>> >>>> I for one would pay up to 50% of the in-person price for a live stream. >>>> I have done just this for TedX. >>>> >>>> Would love to see the math on the income from 'the sponsor' and stack >>>> that against the income from copious live streams (minus in-person >>>> overheads). >>>> >>>> For an NOG we seem to be very offline [image: π€·ββοΈ] >>>> >>>> <S>It not like we couldn't find some spare bandwidth for a live >>>> stream.</s> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Shaun Deans >>>> [image: π§ββοΈ] kadeo.au >>>> 1800 WKD KDO >>>> [image: π±][image: πββοΈ] >>>> >>>> On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 14:43 Karl Kloppenborg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 500-600 dollars a ticket, Iβd like you to respect the financial >>>>> commitment Iβve made to gathering as much merch from my industry peers as >>>>> Iβd like. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This has historically always taken place and given the small community >>>>> nature of NOG, something many of us look forward to as part of the >>>>> experience, we like swapping our merch with our friends. It saves postage. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would say this not only misses the mark but is a continued slap of >>>>> the face to all those that pay good money to attend the event in hopes to >>>>> meet with their industry peers but more importantly *friends.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for >>>>> those who canβt attend, or providing a continued framework to making the >>>>> event a safer place for all? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Honestly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> *Karl Kloppenborg, **(BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA >>>>> Linux+ XK0-004)* >>>>> >>>>> Managing Director, Invention Labs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From: *AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of >>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]> >>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 2:21 pm >>>>> *To: *AusNOG Mailing List <[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject: *[AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events. >>>>> >>>>> Afternoon all, >>>>> >>>>> We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April >>>>> about companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in >>>>> particular branded t-shirts etc. While everyone likes getting a bag full >>>>> of free merch, we ask that attendees respect the financial commitment that >>>>> our sponsors make towards funding the conference. They cover almost half >>>>> the cost and in return they get the right to promote themselves to all of >>>>> you who attend. >>>>> >>>>> If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at >>>>> the conference. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> David, on behalf of the Board >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog> >>>>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> AusNOG mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >>
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