On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:59 pm, Nathan Brookfield
<[email protected]> wrote:
It’s very common for conferences for slides not to be published or
the stream not to be replayed later but streaming is here and not
going anywhere, if anything with the conference size constantly
growing it would likely end up in MORE revenue as tickets often sell
out and space becomes an issue so even more now than ever it would
seem worthwhile.
*From:*Terry Manderson <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:53 PM
*To:* Nathan Brookfield <[email protected]>
*Cc:* Shaun Deans <[email protected]>; AusNOG Mailing List
<[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events.
its not that Australia is special, but (from experience) previous
presenters have said explicitly "don't stream, don't share slides".
i.e In $dayjob I cannot show or say things regarding some stuff that
is recorded or streamed...
Cheers,
Terry
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Mobile device, don't expect grammar.
On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:48 pm, Nathan Brookfield
<[email protected]> wrote:
I’m not buying that this is the case because any single person
considering 300 people have laptops out could record this at any
time whether Video or Audio.
NZNOG stream, NANOG stream, I went to a conference recently for
RPAS with companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman and other
military industrial complex types talking and it was all
streamed privately with an NDA agreed too when opening the
stream, we’re way past the days of someone saying something in a
room being private and if the other NOG’s can do it then why is
Australia special….
*From:*AusNOG <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Shaun Deans
*Sent:* Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:43 PM
*To:* Terry Manderson <[email protected]>
*Cc:* AusNOG Mailing List <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events.
All valid points and it's hard to please humans 100% of the time.
All we can do is provide options and boundaries which the board
have done.
It's now up to the community to make choices.
The board to a great job and it's easy for me to play devil's
advocate from my arm chair.
I look forward to attending an AusNOG in any inclusive and
available form that works for everyone.
Cheers
Shaun Deans
🧙♂️ kadeo.au
1800 WKD KDO
📱🏃♂️
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:34 Terry Manderson, <[email protected]> wrote:
Heh 😏 .666 of a seat ... cute 😂
there are of course two other interesting components to this
1. "its the network (of people) behind the network.. eg get
to know people, meet people, be in person (if you can) and
build trust by eating with, drinking with, those that you
can help or they can help you.... 2. if it is streamed and
you are remote, the "ausnog steam blackout" isn't helpful to
anyone.
my perspective, ymmv.
Cheers,
Terry
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On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:23 pm, Shaun Deans
<[email protected]> wrote:
Terry
You do raise a valid point and I hear your view.
Numbers and statistics can be viewed to make anyone's
points true I was just saying - what if.
> Past performance is not a indicator of future
performance. /s
> All advice is general in nature /s
But in the interest of healthy community debate:
Let's say 1/4 of the talks are only 'in the room'
Therefore the above is discounted by 25% cause the
participants only get 75% of the event.
- 15,000 / ($300 * 0.75) = 66.666 Tickets.
For every pro there is a con.
Innovation does not come without compromise.
I'm sure those extra 16 seats will sell fast with the
e-swag that they receive.
Don't know how I'm going to fill that .666 of a seat 😈
Cheers
Shaun Deans
🧙♂️ kadeo.au
1800 WKD KDO
📱🏃♂️
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:09 Andrew White,
<[email protected]> wrote:
I thought the key benefit was Sactioned Swag (tm)?
- Whitey
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 17:04, Terry Manderson
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Shaun,
are you aware that not all presentations can be
streamed? Many presenters provide content that
is "in room only" and even their slides can't be
shared. How does that factor into you math?
That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as there
have been (and will be) many presentations you
won't see on youtube.
Cheers,
Terry
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Mobile device, don't expect grammar.
On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans
<[email protected]> wrote:
It got the better of me and I'm glad it did.
TLDR: 50x Streams = 'the sponsor' /- Swag /
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1. Income
1. August 2022 = ~ 300 Attendees
<https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2021/attendees>at
$600 per ticket (Average)
<https://www.ausnog.net/events/ausnog-2022/registration>
2. Total $180K
3. Sponsors = 'Nearly Half' → $90K
2. Who Done It And What Did They Offer ?
1. I'm just going to say everyone pays
equal but they probably don't
2. This will bias for the fact that it
could be any tiering and we don't
want to single out community members
who may be sponsors
3. So the 'sponsor income' could be 15K
1. nice round number
2. and its 'nearly half'
3. Streaming to to masses!
1. 50% Cost for Streaming Ticket = $300
2. Total Streams = $15,000 / $300
3. That's only *50 tickets and it may
break even*
1. 3 people said they'd be
interested already.
4. This doesn't include:
1. Savings: Onsite Costs such as venue
hire, insurance, etc etc
2. Expenses: Bandwidth and Streaming
Costs🙄
5. /Past performance is not a indicator of
future performance. /s/
6. /All advice is general in nature /s/
🎤💁♂️
SD.
On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 15:19:29, Shaun
Deans <[email protected]> wrote:
> How about NOG focus on meaningful
things like streaming the event for
those who can’t attend
I for one would pay up to 50% of the
in-person price for a live stream. I
have done just this for TedX.
Would love to see the math on the income
from 'the sponsor' and stack that
against the income from copious live
streams (minus in-person overheads).
For an NOG we seem to be very offline 🤷♀️
<S>It not like we couldn't find some
spare bandwidth for a live stream.</s>
Cheers
Shaun Deans
🧙♂️kadeo.au <http://kadeo.au/>
1800 WKD KDO
📱🏃♂️
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 14:43 Karl
Kloppenborg, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi David,
At 500-600 dollars a ticket, I’d
like you to respect the financial
commitment I’ve made to gathering as
much merch from my industry peers as
I’d like.
This has historically always taken
place and given the small community
nature of NOG, something many of us
look forward to as part of the
experience, we like swapping our
merch with our friends. It saves
postage.
I would say this not only misses the
mark but is a continued slap of the
face to all those that pay good
money to attend the event in hopes
to meet with their industry peers
but more importantly /friends./
//
How about NOG focus on meaningful
things like streaming the event for
those who can’t attend, or providing
a continued framework to making the
event a safer place for all?
Honestly.
Kind Regards,
--
*Karl Kloppenborg, */(BCompSc,
CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE,
CompTIA Linux+ XK0-004)/
Managing Director, Invention Labs.
*From: *AusNOG
<[email protected]> on
behalf of [email protected]
<[email protected]>
*Date: *Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at
2:21 pm
*To: *AusNOG Mailing List
<[email protected]>
*Subject: *[AusNOG] Promotional
material at AusNOG Events.
Afternoon all,
We've been contacted by one of the
sponsors of our conference in April
about companies who aren't sponsors
handing out promotional material, in
particular branded t-shirts etc.
While everyone likes getting a bag
full of free merch, we ask that
attendees respect the financial
commitment that our sponsors make
towards funding the conference. They
cover almost half the cost and in
return they get the right to promote
themselves to all of you who attend.
If you are not a sponsor please do
not distribute swag to delegates at
the conference.
Regards,
David, on behalf of the Board
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