its not that Australia is special, but (from experience) previous presenters have said explicitly "don't stream, don't share slides".
i.e In $dayjob I cannot show or say things regarding some stuff that is recorded or streamed... Cheers, Terry -- Mobile device, don't expect grammar. > On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:48 pm, Nathan Brookfield > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I’m not buying that this is the case because any single person considering > 300 people have laptops out could record this at any time whether Video or > Audio. > > NZNOG stream, NANOG stream, I went to a conference recently for RPAS with > companies like Boeing, Northrop Grumman and other military industrial complex > types talking and it was all streamed privately with an NDA agreed too when > opening the stream, we’re way past the days of someone saying something in a > room being private and if the other NOG’s can do it then why is Australia > special…. > > From: AusNOG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shaun Deans > Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2022 5:43 PM > To: Terry Manderson <[email protected]> > Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events. > > All valid points and it's hard to please humans 100% of the time. > > All we can do is provide options and boundaries which the board have done. > > It's now up to the community to make choices. > > The board to a great job and it's easy for me to play devil's advocate from > my arm chair. > > I look forward to attending an AusNOG in any inclusive and available form > that works for everyone. > > > Cheers > > Shaun Deans > 🧙♂️ kadeo.au > 1800 WKD KDO > 📱🏃♂️ > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:34 Terry Manderson, <[email protected]> wrote: > Heh 😏 .666 of a seat ... cute 😂 > > there are of course two other interesting components to this 1. "its the > network (of people) behind the network.. eg get to know people, meet people, > be in person (if you can) and build trust by eating with, drinking with, > those that you can help or they can help you.... 2. if it is streamed and you > are remote, the "ausnog steam blackout" isn't helpful to anyone. > > my perspective, ymmv. > > Cheers, > Terry > -- > Mobile device, don't expect grammar. > > > On 2 Aug 2022, at 5:23 pm, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Terry > > You do raise a valid point and I hear your view. > > Numbers and statistics can be viewed to make anyone's points true I was just > saying - what if. > > > Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s > > All advice is general in nature /s > > But in the interest of healthy community debate: > > Let's say 1/4 of the talks are only 'in the room' > > Therefore the above is discounted by 25% cause the participants only get 75% > of the event. > > - 15,000 / ($300 * 0.75) = 66.666 Tickets. > > For every pro there is a con. > Innovation does not come without compromise. > > I'm sure those extra 16 seats will sell fast with the e-swag that they > receive. > > Don't know how I'm going to fill that .666 of a seat 😈 > > > Cheers > > Shaun Deans > 🧙♂️ kadeo.au > 1800 WKD KDO > 📱🏃♂️ > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 17:09 Andrew White, <[email protected]> wrote: > I thought the key benefit was Sactioned Swag (tm)? > > - Whitey > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 17:04, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Shaun, > > are you aware that not all presentations can be streamed? Many presenters > provide content that is "in room only" and even their slides can't be shared. > How does that factor into you math? > > That is the key benefit of AusNOG IMHO as there have been (and will be) many > presentations you won't see on youtube. > > Cheers, > Terry > -- > Mobile device, don't expect grammar. > > > On 2 Aug 2022, at 4:33 pm, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It got the better of me and I'm glad it did. > > TLDR: 50x Streams = 'the sponsor' - Swag > > --- > Income > August 2022 = ~ 300 Attendees at $600 per ticket (Average) > Total $180K > Sponsors = 'Nearly Half' → $90K > Who Done It And What Did They Offer ? > I'm just going to say everyone pays equal but they probably don't > This will bias for the fact that it could be any tiering and we don't want to > single out community members who may be sponsors > So the 'sponsor income' could be 15K > nice round number > and its 'nearly half' > Streaming to to masses! > 50% Cost for Streaming Ticket = $300 > Total Streams = $15,000 / $300 > That's only 50 tickets and it may break even > 3 people said they'd be interested already. > This doesn't include: > Savings: Onsite Costs such as venue hire, insurance, etc etc > Expenses: Bandwidth and Streaming Costs > Past performance is not a indicator of future performance. /s > All advice is general in nature /s > > > SD. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 15:19:29, Shaun Deans <[email protected]> wrote: > > How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those > > who can’t attend > > I for one would pay up to 50% of the in-person price for a live stream. I > have done just this for TedX. > > Would love to see the math on the income from 'the sponsor' and stack that > against the income from copious live streams (minus in-person overheads). > > For an NOG we seem to be very offline > > <S>It not like we couldn't find some spare bandwidth for a live stream.</s> > > > Cheers > > Shaun Deans > kadeo.au > 1800 WKD KDO > > > On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, 14:43 Karl Kloppenborg, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi David, > > At 500-600 dollars a ticket, I’d like you to respect the financial commitment > I’ve made to gathering as much merch from my industry peers as I’d like. > > This has historically always taken place and given the small community nature > of NOG, something many of us look forward to as part of the experience, we > like swapping our merch with our friends. It saves postage. > > I would say this not only misses the mark but is a continued slap of the face > to all those that pay good money to attend the event in hopes to meet with > their industry peers but more importantly friends. > > How about NOG focus on meaningful things like streaming the event for those > who can’t attend, or providing a continued framework to making the event a > safer place for all? > > Honestly. > > Kind Regards, > -- > Karl Kloppenborg, (BCompSc, CNCF-[KCNA, CKA, CKAD], LFCE, CompTIA Linux+ > XK0-004) > Managing Director, Invention Labs. > > > From: AusNOG <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, 2 August 2022 at 2:21 pm > To: AusNOG Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [AusNOG] Promotional material at AusNOG Events. > > Afternoon all, > > We've been contacted by one of the sponsors of our conference in April about > companies who aren't sponsors handing out promotional material, in particular > branded t-shirts etc. While everyone likes getting a bag full of free merch, > we ask that attendees respect the financial commitment that our sponsors make > towards funding the conference. They cover almost half the cost and in > return they get the right to promote themselves to all of you who attend. > > If you are not a sponsor please do not distribute swag to delegates at the > conference. > > > Regards, > > David, on behalf of the Board > ... > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
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