I am still working on the final read.

On 27.06.25 18:33, Alanna Paloma wrote:
> Hi Bernie,
>
> This is a friendly reminder that we await your review and approval of the 
> updated files prior to moving this document forward in the publication 
> process.
>
> The files have been posted here (please refresh) :
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787.xml
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787.txt
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787.html
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787.pdf
>
> The relevant diff files have been posted here:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787-auth48rfcdiff.html (AUTH48 changes 
> side by side)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787-lastdiff.html (last version to 
> this one)
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9787-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between 
> last version and this)
>
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9787
>
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/ap
>
>> On Jun 17, 2025, at 6:10 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <d...@fifthhorseman.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alanna--
>>
>> On Tue 2025-06-17 14:45:32 -0700, Alanna Paloma wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the updated XML file. The other document files have been 
>>> updated accordingly.
>> Thanks for processing it!
>>
>>>> 1) "conformant-receiving MUA" or "conformant-interpreting MUA", etc:
>>>>    the RFC editor has hyphenated terms like "conformant receiving MUA".
>>>>    My understanding of hyphenation in this case implies that the
>>>>    adjectives belong together, rather than applying independently to
>>>>    the noun they modify.  However, i think that we're talking about an
>>>>    MUA that is conformant with this draft, and is also receiving a
>>>>    message (for example).  So i would generally prefer the original
>>>>    "conformant receiving MUA" or (if you prefer) "receiving conformant
>>>>    MUA" or even "a conformant MUA that receives the message".
>>>>
>>>>    This appears multiple times in the document, search for "conformant-"
>>> ) Thank you for that clarification. We have reverted these changes to 
>>> remove the hyphen.
>> looks good.
>>
>>>> 2) This sentence:
>>>>
>>>>       If the application wants to generate a message that is both
>>>>       encrypted and signed, it MAY use the simple MIME structure from
>>>>       Section 4.1.2.2 by ensuring that the Encrypted Message [RFC9580]
>>>>       within the application/octet-stream part contains a Signed
>>>>       Message [RFC9580] (the final option described in Section
>>>>       4.1.2.2).
>>>>
>>>>    was originally written as "RFC9580 Encrypted Message" and "RFC9580
>>>>    Signed Message", but the RFC editor has moved the reference to after
>>>>    the term.  The term is used here in the sense that it refers to
>>>>    Section 10.3 of RFC 9580, the OpenPGP Message grammar.  The term
>>>>    "Encrypted Message" is very generic, so in common conversation, you
>>>>    might call it an "RFC9580 Encrypted Message" to ensure that it's not
>>>>    generic.  It feels clumsy to call it an "Encrypted Message [RFC9580]".
>>> ) We have also reverted these changes.
>>>
>>> Current:
>>>    If the application wants to generate a message that is both encrypted
>>>    and signed, it MAY use the simple MIME structure from Section 4.1.2.2
>>>    by ensuring that the [RFC9580] Encrypted Message within the
>>>    application/octet-stream part contains a [RFC9580] Signed Message
>>>    (the final option described in Section 4.1.2.2).
>> I read this out loud and i think that "a [RFC9580] Signed Message" might
>> be better written as "an [RFC9580] Signed Message", because i pronounce
>> it "arr eff see".  But i'm fine with using "a" instead of "an" if that's
>> the RFC editor's preference.
>>
>> I also note your updates to mark the MIME tree structures as
>> "ascii-art", which look correct to me.
>>
>> Thanks for your work on this!  I am satisfied with RFC-to-be 9787.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>         --dkg

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