On Thu, 1 Dec 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: > Rob Unsworth wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Nov 2005, Jacqueline McNally wrote: > > > > > > > As only authors may vote to move the list, I think subscribers to this > > > list > > > should be "invited" to join any new list. That is, no bulk > > > subscription. > > > > > > Why? Any one on this list will not be subscribed to a new list, all that > > will happen is the current mailing list will be located to a new server > > and use different software. > > > > Rather than answer that, I'll ask a different question. > > Why does this list exist? Why are we not subscribed and using > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Regards > Jacqueline
As you are reluctant to answer my previous question, perhaps you would prefer to answer why after your first post to this list you have changed your sig from, Regards Jacqueline McNally Lead, OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Have you joined this list, for the purpose of reporting to the OOo Community Council of which you are a member? An extract from your email to the CC, where is the "we" (oooAuthors) in this message. ***2 Jean posted [4] to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list that two printed manuals were available for purchase from lulu.com. There is discussion continuing there. The http://www.lulu.com/opendocument page states that the "Profits from the sale of this book support expenses of OOoAuthors (http://oooauthors.org/)." On the actual book pages (these are linked from http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/ in the OOo Doc Project) the books are listed on lulu.com as being published by Friends of OpenDocument Inc which as Jean explains in her initial message "for the purpose of handling money raised from sales of OOoAuthors books and other items, some of them for other groups. (For example, Friends of OpenDocument Inc also provides the OpenDocument Fellowship's website.) For more info, see http://friendsofopendocument.org/";. [4] http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=authors&msgNo=10276 Jacquelines full message: http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=710 I believe the oooAuthors was specifically targeted and discriminated against by the OOo Community Council. The following is an addendum to the guidelines posted by Louis Sarez-Potts. It is the first post in the thread indicating some considerable off list discussion. <addendum> OpenOffice.org is not opposed to people and companies making money from their personal investment in OpenOffice.org. But we have some strictures, which are aimed to make the Project a pleasant collaborative space for all and to locate commercial activity to certain public areas, such as the Support page (http:// support.openoffice.org/) and parts of the Documentation Project (http://documentation.openoffice.org/). * Outside of designated areas, such as the Support page, works for sale listed on the Project website should benefit OpenOffice.org, not the individual author or authors. Works listed that benefit the author (s) only or an association of them will be removed. * Sponsor ads are accepted but are to be located in designated areas, such as the sponsors page for conferences, the Support page, and other similar locations, with two exceptions: Sun Microsystems, and CollabNet, the location of whose ads we have minimal control. </addendum> http://council.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=702 (The starting point for this thread.) If you had any doubt that oooAuthors was being singled out, this post from louis should remove that doubt. <Louis> * Let us vote on this. I'd also then like to raise the immediate consequence: That we contact the Authors list and Documentation project and request that the material listed there referenced here [0] be removed from the Documentation Project immediately (OOoAuthors User Guides are here [1]), and that OOo resources, i.e., the [EMAIL PROTECTED] faq.openoffice.org list, not be used for the profit of OOoAuthors. OR that the profits be donated to the OpenOffice.org project, i.e., Team OpenOffice.org e.V. Let us discuss this and vote Best, Louis [0] http://user-faq.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg? list=authors&msgNo=10276 [1] http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/index.html </Louis> Why all this interest in ooAuthors, it's called success. Do not let the CC or anyone change the model that is ooAuthors to do so will change what has made you so successful. The Openoffice.org website has support, and instructions for the downloading of OpenOffice.org for burning onto CD to be sold for profit by a third party, with no requirement that the profits be donated to Team OpenOffice.org e.V. Jacqueline, on behalf of the Community Council please explain why the sellers of CDs are not being treated the same as oooAuthors. Jacqueline, go talk to the CC and find a way to work with ooAuthors for the betterment of OOo, *do not* break a successful team whose only goal is to improve OOo. -- Regards, | Lions District 201 Q3 Rob Unsworth | IT & Internet Chairman Ipswich, Australia | http://www.lionsq3.asn.au -------------------------------------------------
